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Anakin's turn to the dark side a little rushed?
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Anakin's turn to the dark side a little rushed?

I mean, it's like this:

Anakin: Obi Wan I'm not leaving without you you're my BFF! No! I shouldn't kill Dooku he's unarmed!

Anakin: Padme, I love you and we can raise the baby without deceptions or anything I'm tired of it.

Palpatine: Jedi are just like sith.

Anakin: Palpatine, that's not true! Jedi are protectors of the peace! Sith are evil!

Palpatine: this sith dude could prevent others from dying!

Anakin: really...

Palpatine: I'm a sith lord! Join me and you'll save Padme!

Anakin: Gasp! You're evil! I wanna kill you! I'll report you to the council immediately!

Anakin: Don't kill Sidious! I need him! *cuts off Mace's hand*

Anakin: OK I'll be evil now

Sidious: Good. Now you're Vader. Go slaughter younglings.

Vader: Of course. *ruthlessly slaughters jedi*

Vader: I hate you Obi Wan even though I saved your life many times and you were the closest thing that I ever had to a father and I risked my life to save you only a few days ago!



Get it? He's good, and then turns evil FAR too quickly and without much reason. Anakin should be smarter than to listen to a sith.


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Anakin was emo, nuff said.

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it was a process... you did watch episode II, right? although the process is kinda obscure. >>. and well... what do you expect with only 3 movies?

weirdly, though - there seemed to be no dark-side-y tendencies in clone wars (new one) for anakin...


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The "process" was very badly done.


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The "process" was very badly done.


agreed. >>.


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That's the stellar writing abilities of an aging billionaire.


he's getting rusty.

It needs a remake. The OT is *almost* perfect as it is. well, for me its perfect already, anyway..


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Yeah, the prequels screwed the pooch on more than a few points. Anakins descent to the dark side being one of them. Funny Star Wars PSA here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3tpW_I8-jt8

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I have seen more dramatic and believable character twists in a 90 minute movie than in almost seven hours of PT Star Wars.


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Re: Anakin's turn to the dark side a little rushed?

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Originally posted by Hewhoknowsall
I mean, it's like this:

Anakin: Obi Wan I'm not leaving without you you're my BFF! No! I shouldn't kill Dooku he's unarmed!

Anakin: Padme, I love you and we can raise the baby without deceptions or anything I'm tired of it.

Palpatine: Jedi are just like sith.

Anakin: Palpatine, that's not true! Jedi are protectors of the peace! Sith are evil!

Palpatine: this sith dude could prevent others from dying!

Anakin: really...

Palpatine: I'm a sith lord! Join me and you'll save Padme!

Anakin: Gasp! You're evil! I wanna kill you! I'll report you to the council immediately!

Anakin: Don't kill Sidious! I need him! *cuts off Mace's hand*

Anakin: OK I'll be evil now

Sidious: Good. Now you're Vader. Go slaughter younglings.

Vader: Of course. *ruthlessly slaughters jedi*

Vader: I hate you Obi Wan even though I saved your life many times and you were the closest thing that I ever had to a father and I risked my life to save you only a few days ago!



Get it? He's good, and then turns evil FAR too quickly and without much reason. Anakin should be smarter than to listen to a sith.


I think its very clear in the movies, that he only did it to save Padme, of course he doesn't believe Sidious, he only does those stuff because he thinks he needs Sidious.
The scene on Mustafar, when he kills the Separatist council and then watches the lava and a single tear comes from his eye, you can see, that he knows what he has become, what he has done, but he was willing to pay any price to save Padme.


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Originally posted by queeq
I have seen more dramatic and believable character twists in a 90 minute movie than in almost seven hours of PT Star Wars.


Why always so hateful towards the PT?

Surely there must be something positive you must say about it?

I can think of ten:

1. Liam Neeson

2. Ewan McGregor

3. Awesome lightsaber duels

4. Awesome ground and space battles

5. Decent to amazing CGI

6. Fantastic music

7. Maintaining a used universe feel in addition to a more pristine age.

8. Jango Fett

9. Darth Maul

10. YOUR TURN!


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I really like Star Wars, and I find all of the films to be really enjoyable. This is just asking why Anakin is good and then turns bad within the next few minutes.


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I have seen more dramatic and believable character twists in a 90 minute movie than in almost seven hours of PT Star Wars.


Not to be rude or anything, but why are you the mod for a set of movies that you don't seem to like?


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Not to be rude or anything, but why are you the mod for a set of movies that you don't seem to like?


oh, he likes it.

sometimes it just doesn't seem that way.


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This is just asking why Anakin is good and then turns bad within the next few minutes.


I think after cutting off Mace Windu's arm and basically causing him to plummet to his death sealed the deal on him not wanting to be associated with the Jedi. That, and he felt Palpatine had the key to save Padme's life.


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Don't forget he considered Palpatine as a mentor and a close friend. Just like Obi-Wan, he was the closest thing to a father Anakin had.


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Originally posted by queeq
The "process" was very badly done.


In the movie yes, in the book NO it was done very, very well.

Too bad they didnt do it that way in the movie.

And dont pay any attention to Queeq, he's just cranky cause he misses me.


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True!

So because I like SW I cannot be disappointed about extremely bad elements. There are quite a number of good things about the PT, but the thing that I can't seem to get over is that Lucas had no limitations at all making the PT. And yet, he fails to make it a very good trilogy. The PT is all about Anakin's fall... he spends about seven hours telling that story... he makes one completely obsolete film (AOTC) and rushes the turn to the Dark Side in such a way that it loses all credibility. And this from the filmmaker that always used to say the effects were just tools in telling a story. And when he has unlimited power to make the PT, he fails at telling the story properly and submerges in a load of special effects. That's irony and a painful irony for a fan like me.


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Agreed.


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