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Qui Gon and Count Dooku.....
was dooku just provoking obi wan by telling him that he could have used qui gons help? would qui gon have actually joined him? i dont think so. qui gon was a rebel of sorts, but to go against the republic, the people he has sworn to protect? no.
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Jul 9th, 2003 09:27 AM |
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Ushgarak
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No, of course QGJ would not have joined him- very clear good guy/bad guy divide in Star Wars.
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Jul 9th, 2003 10:02 AM |
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Rogue Jedi
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yes, i agree. but, as we have learned, a good guy can turn bad very easily.
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Jul 9th, 2003 10:04 AM |
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Karma Toreall
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yea but i dont think he would've
not if obi1 was by his side.
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Jul 9th, 2003 06:56 PM |
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if qui gon was still alive, he and obi wan wouldnt be together near as much as they were in ep.1. obi wan is now a jedi master, with his own padawan to train. however, if qui gon were alive, anakin would have been his padawan, while obi wan took on another. who knows?
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Jul 10th, 2003 05:56 AM |
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All meant to confuse and amuse us..
Obi would not have Anny and QGJ would. THerefore a whole new twist to what is evolving now..hmmmm
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Jul 10th, 2003 09:35 AM |
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yerssot
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OB1 never got to the rank of master
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Jul 10th, 2003 09:47 AM |
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Rogue Jedi
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you sure, yerssot? i thought yoda referred to him as master obi wan to the jedi children. i might be mistaken.
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Jul 10th, 2003 07:00 PM |
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yerssot
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yes, master as in "the dude has a padawan"
jocasta nu on the JC of SW.C said that he never reached the rank of Master... that's all I know I think
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Jul 10th, 2003 07:02 PM |
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Ushgarak
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Yeah, which is not to say he is not effectively a Jedi Master by ANH, orf course, just that with the Order extinct he had no official status in that department.,
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Jul 10th, 2003 10:42 PM |
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kkais
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He is a master to the children DUH!! He is a Jedi knight and when he fights dooku he is defeated to fast and easily to have the skills of a jedi master
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May 2nd, 2004 11:49 PM |
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yerssot
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that has nothing to do with it
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May 2nd, 2004 11:51 PM |
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Rogue Jedi
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dooku was older and more experienced than obi wan was.
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May 3rd, 2004 02:06 AM |
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Bagels
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Who's to say that any of that would have happened period had Qui-Gon lived? I mean, don't you guys find it odd that Qui-Gon gets killed my a Sith Lord, and then his former master goes and joins one?
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May 3rd, 2004 03:08 AM |
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Dirty Vader
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Okay us seeing the good samaritan Qui Gonn in the movies wipes out any thought of treachery on his part. But Qui Gonn seems to be a bit of a rebel, disobeying the council.
"If you'd follow the code, you'd be in the council"
"Dont go against the council, not again master"
"I shall do what I must Obi Wan"
Hmmm I dunno, he might of actualy joined dooku.
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May 3rd, 2004 06:12 AM |
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Ushgarak
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Not obeying the code would have no association whatsoever with joining Dooku!
And it is not odd at all- it's just part of the whole Master/Apprentice family saga of Star Wars.
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May 3rd, 2004 09:57 AM |
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Swordfish2k0
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I think what Dooku was imlpying was that Qui Gonn knew of the deceit in the senate and being a little rebellious would not have accepted it like Yoda and the rest of the council did.
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May 3rd, 2004 12:19 PM |
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wuTa
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i think qui gon could have turned...yoda even said how he was defiant...if u look at it closely its not clear cut that he woulda been a good guy if he was alive during the aotc
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May 4th, 2004 04:07 AM |
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yerssot
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he still served for the good cause, a sith like Dooku doesn't
there is no way that QGJ would have turned to the dark side as OB1 said already in AOTC
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May 4th, 2004 03:11 PM |
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wuTa
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and like dooku said..he knew qui gon just as good as obi wan ...qui gon was a rebel of sorts he did things in the interest he thought were best not what the jedi or jedi council thought were best he very easily could have turned
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