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Machine...and you CandyKorn??

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Man...and machine. Neo was a man who died, and "transcended", gaining the code of the ONE, but changing it. He has the mind of a man, and the body of a man, but he is a program, a creation of the system, although he is changed, his "conciousness altered".

In christianty, it is believed by some (myself included) that Jesus was not God until he was baptized, until the Spirit descended upon him. At that point, Jesus was still a man, but he was God, also. In this way is Neo both Man, and Machine.


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Man...and machine. Neo was a man who died, and "transcended", gaining the code of the ONE, but changing it. He has the mind of a man, and the body of a man, but he is a program, a creation of the system, although he is changed, his "conciousness altered".






What he said


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Hmm, I revise my statement. Man and machine, the way that Jedi and Crash said. That explanation is more of what I thought, but I didn't think to write it all out > hence I only said man. Wow, that was lazy. Well anyhow, man and machine. And freakin cool!!


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*** Neo is Human. ***

The Architech even stated as much.

Here is his statement.

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Architect: I am the Architect. I created the Matrix. I have been waiting for you. You have many questions and although the process has altered your consciousness you remain irrevocably human, ergo some of my answers you will understand and some of them you will not. Concordantly, while your first question maybe the most pertinent you may or may not realize it is also the most irrelevant.

Neo: Why am I here?

Architect: Your life is the sum of a remainder of an unbalanced equation inherent to the programming of the matrix. You are the eventuality of an anomaly which despite my sincerest efforts I have been unable to eliminate from what is otherwise a harmony of mathematical precision. While it remains a burden assiduously avoided it is not unexpected and thus not beyond a measure of control. Which has led you inexcerably here.


I hope that helps.


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yea, just because he say's so, doesn't mean it's the truth.


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thats true, however, the Architect also refers to the code Neo "carries", and only machines carry code. Humans don't carry code, their mind processes are digitized when they jack in. Ergo, i believe that, although he is flesh and blood, Neo is also machine...


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We are all machines if you think about it.


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Explain that, because im too tired to shoot it down at this moment.


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has anyone considered for a moment that maybe just maybe, to control the endless fields of human beings, the machines placded tracking devices in the peoples' bodies so that they would know when a battery has died? and maybe, just maybe, that they chose one to carry the source code just in case the matrix was corrupted by a virus (smith)? just a little food for thought.

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But the first EMP blast, and every person in the radius would have a good dose of electricity, and/or an explosive blast go off in their body...try again...


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He's a man. Allegedly, he carries the "source code". This could be done in a number of ways, maybe in in a tracking device previously mentioned (although I doubt that), maybe by altering DNA structure, or by other biological materials into Neo.


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he is a program. Go to the resterant scene. Just after the woman has her orgasm, neo is told that why is what seperate us from them. He also makes good reference to the control issue.


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yes, Mero says that, and right after that, Mero says "You, from me". That means that it is all the machines from the humans, and the Mero from Neo. Ergo, Neo=human.


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