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Question Someone Answer This

in m1 didnt smith say that the first matrix was perfect? and if it was perfect why was it demolished and why did they need a the one.
my other question is how did smith know about that?

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The first one was perfect and the humans couldnt handle it. Entire crops were lost. It was too perfect. He knew,,probably because he has the entire history of the world in his programming.. He knows about the dinosaurs,,thats about it.

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ok but why scrap a perfect design? who cares bout crops lol.... oh yeah machines run the shyt


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and how did smith know about the other matrixes?


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thats why i think that the real world, which includes ZION, is the first MATRIX, kept, although destroyed, in order to have more control over the "freer" humans....


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i think the "Real world" is a matrix... and the matrix as jus a program...


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thats what i just said...


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zion is 01 but in the machines matrix.. thus a matrix inside the matrix.


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WHAT?! What machines matrix?


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like the machines are in thier own matrix but as humans... and like the humans are running the show... but the REAL humans matrix is where they control the machines so like in my terms its vice versa.... humans attacking 01 and machines in 01/zion getting attacked.....


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these are jus my theories


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ughhhhh. reading these last few posts is making my head hurt and my stomach turn. time to watch the "enemy" trailer.


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The first matrxi was perfect...as close as we can get to heaven...But its not in our nature and we rejected it. This is another shot at religion showing what we want the most is not possible its a fairy tale.


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humans are not perfect so they cant be in a perfect world. if WE where perfect than this world would be too, you see.... now math is what a program is SO the architect rewrote the matrix so that 1+1=3 its not correct therefor not perfect. but some things need to be correct os some times 1+1 IS 2 and thats what the anamolys are spawned from the "remander of a mathmatial harmony" as the architect put it.

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There was no ONE in the first matrix. The humans didn't have a choice so therefore the anomaly didn't accumulate.


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Humans define their lives through misery and suffering. So the matrix was redesigned to this. The height of your civilization. I wonder what happened, when the humans began waking up from the perfect world, what did the machines do, while redesigning this other matrix... ?


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The first Matrix was, at least according to the MACHINES – perfect. A work of art. And also a monumental failure. It may still be around somewhere, but Zion and the real world are as we see them, namely real, at least to the best of my analytical abilities.
We don’t define our lives through suffering and misery. But we have a need to chose for ourselves. Shove me into the perfect world against my will, and I’ll be miserable. I didn’t chose that myself. We can only learn through our choices, be they good or bad choices, and the consequences of our choices.
That’s why it doesn’t help if someone says “don’t DO that, you’ll regret it.” I may just go ahead and do it anyways, for various reasons, and will maybe have to learn the hard way. We are an evolving species, and evolutions is, in part, based on the choices we make, and the consequences.
Humans are neither good nor bad. We just do what we can, to fulfil our basic needs for food, shelter, social interactions, procreation and getting to know ourselves.

A perfect machine world would, be definition be mathematical perfection. We don’t work that way, and that’s why we evolve. A machine can never go beyond it’s programming parameters, it can’t answer or choose beyond its program. We’re not machines, we’re not programmed to do THIS or THAT, so we can change. Sifer is right. There was no anomaly in Matrix 1.0. The anomaly is basically he consequence of the incompatibility of machine limitations and human nature.


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$ls
src core matrix README

$./matrix -v
Matrix Version 1.0

i'm thinking matrix v1 segfaulted and was abandoned.

$cd .. ; ls
matrix-v1 matrix-v1.5 matrix-v2 matrix-v3-BETA

$cd matrix-v2 ; ls
src matrix README

$ps -a | grep matrix
84 tty4 43204320:20 matrix

$kill -s kill 84 ; touch neo_was_here

nevermind stick out tongue


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??? ok... ???


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Very well said, Sifer, Omega...*applause*


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