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joeboy
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What is the choice?

If the people of the matrix need choice, what is that choice. I keep getting told that neo has choice, but what about the people of the matrix?


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obhaive
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They have to choose whether they take what their eyes see as real or not...in your case: which part of you sig image do you look at first!

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aaahhhh its too hard to choose!


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laughing out loud


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i look at the eyes first. But the smile is most important. I then look at the REST.

If the people choose not to believe, then what happens?


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Then i guess they dont get to go for a ride, and spend the rest of the life in "ignorant bliss"...

"No soup for you"

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auhhh to bad!


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Its all a lie, there is no choice, it is predetermined...


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obhaive
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So the matrix tells you who you are and what you will be?

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which brings up the qeustion of neo being a machine


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if he was a machine then when they extracxted him from the matrix and removed all the plgs and stuff then they would of clued on then that "he was not from around here"...unless that is normal....aka the humans are machines and the machines are humans theory!

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no, the matrix doesn't tell you who you are and what you will be, it is, perhaps, coded into the humans, and the matrix, and Zion...this bullet will travel in this direction and hit this person in this place, and they are no longer alive...not reacting to the humans thoughts, but "use new proprietary MetaCortex software to actually anticipate the players' moves", basically, to quote the metacortex website...they tell the humans what they will think, do, how to react, but it is much more than the Matrix, it is also Zion, which would also include thier bodies in the real world, above Zion, outside of the programmed "real world"...it is basically a "game, it is only a game"...yes, perhaps they are all machines, outside of the programmed real world, which includes zion, but they are very much human inside it, perhaps AI has advanced to the point that it IS human, the simulation takes over the real...perhaps the way to perfect the AI, was to make it think it was human, fighting machines, convince it is must survive, ant the whole thing is staged, to increase the awareness of the AI until it is perfect, and wakes up...When "Neo" wakes up, the simulation is over, and the "perfect" AI has been created, which will then be mass produced, and marketed all over the world...


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patented of course!

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quote:
Originally posted by JediHDM
the matrix doesn't tell you who you are

and an oracle can?


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JediHDM
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thats different...no really, it is, for the oracle can read the algorithms and functions running, and decipher the "choices" made, in reality seeing the entire path, or maybe just seeing what she is told to see...


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okok i was just having some quoting fun laughing


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JediHDM
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yeah, thats why i finished it...i really didnt realize i said that at that moment...


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frankenfeltch
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yes, she is programmed to study the qualities of the human phsyce which could in the end tell you who you are, and what kind of person yuo are, what jedihdm is telling us is that the matrix cant give a person their own traits, that comes from their own preferences.


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obhaive
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"Its all a lie, there is no choice, it is predetermined..."

"the matrix cant give a person their own traits"

Traits etc determine choices, so if there is no choice, and it is all predetermined then the matrix determines a person traits as well...

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god da** it this is so MINDBUGALING!!


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