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Noola
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 Aaaarrgghh! I can't stand the confustion in my mind!!!
Okey dokey people,
We all now know {with a high degree of certainty} that Neo is the one. This means that he now fully understands that the matrix is not real, and consequently can fly, dodge bullets, come back to life etc.
So why in the name of my rapidly increasing blood pressure does he bleed when one of mero's guards cuts him? Doesn't he know that the blade doesn't even exist?
Please forgive me if this topic has already been discussed - after all, I'm a newbie! 
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Oct 22nd, 2003 10:06 PM |
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Noola> Please refer to the FDT in the future, to avoid opening a thread on the same topic which has been discussed endlessly before.
Here goes: In M1 Morpheus tells us, that if we die in the Matrix, we die in the real world. Even if you understand, that the Matrix “isn’t real” the mind makes it real, believes that it is real.
While Neo has not only transcended the virtual world, but is also able to cause it to fluctuate, he still “only human.”
Hamann says so, The Mero and the Architect. Even with his “altered consciousness” there are limits to Neos ability to see past the illusion.
He DID stop the sword. I’d have had my hand cut off. But it looked like a sword, and felt like a sword, and Neo just wasn’t quite able to believe it wasn’t real.
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Oct 22nd, 2003 10:13 PM |
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Oct 22nd, 2003 10:15 PM |
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That is hard to explain. I mean if Smith(s) could hit Neo and he could be thrown by the Agent (he is thrown to the pole and swings to kick the Agent), then why can't he be cut by the sword. Think of everybody's abilities (including the Agents and Neo) like this: In the Matrix, everybody who is not an Agent or the One (people like Morpheus and Trinity) has abilities in the parameters of the Matrix. Their powers or abilities are more than human because they realize that it is not a real world, but they cannot surpass the Matrix's rules. The Agents' powers are at the top, maximum abilities that the Matrix can do. This is why Morpheus or Trinity can never defeat an Agent (their powers cannot go to the top limit of the Matrix.) And Neo's (or the One's) power surpasses the Matrix's limits because they can do anything to the Matrix. However, Neo is still only human.
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Oct 23rd, 2003 01:47 AM |
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u cant stand the confusion in your head? just be thankfull ur not me then 
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Oct 23rd, 2003 11:42 AM |
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Noola
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L  L
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Oct 23rd, 2003 04:59 PM |
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thats my trademark laff 
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Oct 23rd, 2003 05:00 PM |
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He's fighting a fight against 5 people (it's five right?) and I always thought that although he is the One, we know he has limited abilities (as Omega said) and thus he can have a lapse in concentration when fighting that many people. That's why he tried to stop the sword as he may have just read it as an object coming towards him... not read it was a sharp sword. Then when it hit him.. he suddenly realise so it stopped there.. but it still hit him while he concentration was lapsed. *breathes* Thoughts?
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Oct 23rd, 2003 05:02 PM |
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Noola
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Sorry korri! I'll choose another
Erm, maybe later
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In truth, I was not as tough as "Ahnold", and not as cool as "Gus" {profile no. 3}; but dammit, I can at least be proud that I had the weirdest name of all three...
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Oct 23rd, 2003 05:49 PM |
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Oct 23rd, 2003 05:50 PM |
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and dont try stealing my trademark catch phrase either
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Oct 23rd, 2003 05:53 PM |
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lol i wont
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Oct 23rd, 2003 05:56 PM |
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i was talkin to noola cause thye took ur laugh!
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Oct 23rd, 2003 05:57 PM |
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ya no more stealin
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Oct 23rd, 2003 05:59 PM |
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Noola
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Okay I'm sorry! I won't steal anything I promise!
After all, I have to set a lesson to the kiddies who must never forget to just say  to spoilers
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Fear not, however! For although I may be gone, my memory lives on through my second profile, "Ahnold", the great governor of califohrnia!
In truth, I was not as tough as "Ahnold", and not as cool as "Gus" {profile no. 3}; but dammit, I can at least be proud that I had the weirdest name of all three...
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Oct 23rd, 2003 07:09 PM |
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priestjim
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He lost much more easily his concentration that when he was fighting the Smiddys.
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Oct 23rd, 2003 07:22 PM |
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yay u say Smiddy too
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Oct 24th, 2003 11:29 AM |
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lotrfreek
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At the end of the second film Neo uses his powers outside of the Matrix so what if Zion is the Matrix and the place that they think is Matrix isn't the Matrix but there is a different Matrix all together??
lotrfreek
Ps hope i haven't confused ya all
  
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Oct 25th, 2003 01:23 PM |
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uh oh....
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Oct 25th, 2003 01:27 PM |
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uh oh....... now i can't stand the confussion........ can YOU?
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