As I promised you, here's the official, stuck at the top thread, for the legions of us, who made it to zero hours today.
I thought “The Matrix Revolutions” was a brilliant end to the trilogy.
Although I wept my eyes out when Trinity died (twice actually, as I saw it twice today), but she had to. If not Neo wouldn’t have sacrificed his life to save mankind.
I must admit that we actually DID manage to figure out a few things (and the actual quote “cookies need love too” was as written into the movie JUST for the cookie-freak around here), some things we did over analyse, and some things were not important.
So: the TWINS were not in Revolutions.
The mother WAS truly the Oracle.
Neo stopped the Sentinels because of his connection to the source of the anomaly, and ended up at Mobil Ave, because using the full power of the anomaly should’ve killed him.
And Smith actually did capture Trinity and try to use her against Neo, although NOT Smith in the way we’d thought it would be.
The open questions as I see them:
Who WERE the Merovingian and Persephone really?
IS Neo really dead? Or did he become One with the Matrix? I was wrong. I guessed the anomaly would die, and Neo would survive. It seems it was the other way around. Or was it?
And if Neo survived by passing Mobil Ave, could a trace of Trinity still be inside the Matrix? Is that the bait for The Matrix Online?
__________________ "Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities."
-Voltaire
"That includes ruining Halloween because someone swallowed a Bible."
"I just thought you were a guy."
"... Most guys do."
Last edited by The Omega on Nov 5th, 2003 at 10:27 PM
Oh boy there i am Zero hour, me and the world getting reado to see how far the rabbit hole goes.....just over two hours later Im sure a worldwide unison "wtf!!!!!??" was heard all around the globe.
Nothing and i mean NOTHING!, cept for some minor questions was really answerd here. Not even the merv (as trinity put it) knew what the hell happend to neo...and neo is wearing his clothes. Coat check...."the lobby" on crack....pfft please that was so dam lame. Ppl are running on the dam ceiling the whole time and about three minutes later trinity goes to sweep the guy and he clings on to the cieling and she has that confused puppy dog look on her face...what in the hell was that, WOMEN you just saw them hanging on the ceiling for about three minutes!.
I didnt just go for action and in my face special effects and a half assed explaniation of certain things but, dammit that's what i got, and you can't all deny it that's what you all got as well.
My god can they leave anymore room for another movie!???. I expected to come out of there with conclusion but, no. No other matrix movies pffft please dont make me laugh. They ask keanu "will there be another" he is paid to say no, they ask carey-anne the same question and of course she is going to say no, they ask lawrence and he said and i quote " I would love to get together with these ppl again and do it again".
Man garbage, they just ruined one of the best movies for me, this place is usually so vocal about things and here it is the offical " i have seen it thread" and i bet most of you are thinking of how to give the Wac. Brothers an excuse for this misrable installment. Jeez they should have made reloaded and then look from some ideas from ppl's spoilers, they would have had a better time with that.
The Wac. Brothers are big anime fans, jee i could'nt tell from all the similarities the super burly brawl had to a dragon ball z episode. Man that was another letdown. If you're gonna end it between neo and smith and not have much action in the movie to begin with as least give it to us there at the end when we deserve it, not sit through the whole dam thing and then get all worked up over somethign that could'nt top the original burly brawl on it's best day.
What do you guys have to say?. Zero hour is over along with this franchise, if you dont believe me believe the masses (which include die hard matrix fans like yourselves and I) when this movie is out of theatres in two months.
__________________ After the failure that was "the matrix revolutions" it is always good to know you CAN count on somethings to deliver. One trilogy to rule them all!
Darkvirus> I’m sorry, but your “wtf” wasn’t echoed around the world. Please, don’t make the entire world accountable for the things you do not understand.
Almost everything WAS answered. The Oracle told us, what happened to Neo, HOW he ended up at Mobil Ave, and how he could stop the sentinels.
And as for Trinity’s expression in the Hel-lobby: Did you consider she just measured the jump to kick him, as she went on to do?
”I didnt just go for action and in my face special effects and a half assed explaniation of certain things but, dammit that's what i got, and you can't all deny it that's what you all got as well.”
Sorry, but I’m denying your claim. Again: Just because YOU do not understand the answers, doesn’t mean the rest of the world doesn’t do so, so stop making every movie-goer accountable for you personal views.
__________________ "Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities."
-Voltaire
"That includes ruining Halloween because someone swallowed a Bible."
"I just thought you were a guy."
"... Most guys do."
Yeah omega she always does that to measure her kick.....confused puppy dog face, face it! that made no-sense.
pfft please omega, what were the answer's. He touched the source pffft
Why didnt you tell me, that answer made me laugh out loud.
Yeah almost everything was answered that's why you had what one sentence to say about it. Dont judge me Omega do i sound like a simpleton to you?. This movie was dummed down for the masses so it does not take anyone with high intelligence to undestand anything( here you guys are saying seraph is an angel, the masses do not know that, they think he's the guy who fought neo in the teshouse and protects what matters most yet they had a henchman clearly say "he's wingless" and the mero go even farther)...what happend to the big hype the jaw dropping answer that would finally satisfy us all....the big bubkus, nada buddy how deep did the rabbit hole go?...reloaded.... and the rabbit crapped on us in revolutions.
Many time in many interviews they hyped it up saying you dont even know what the matrix is until you see the final movie.....please. Omega once again dont think you are higly intelligent because you came away with something that I did not (again you have one sentence about the "answers") I saw the movie twice to make sure I did'nt miss anything and was planning to see it a third time but, im sorry i have given enough money to the wac. brothers to merit seeing this watered down conclusion one more time.
Zero hour, full house: no applause
Imax three hours later, full house: maybe six ppl clapped
Look the proof will be there when you have it on DVD with extra scenes ( so that they can sell the thing) in about three to four months.
__________________ After the failure that was "the matrix revolutions" it is always good to know you CAN count on somethings to deliver. One trilogy to rule them all!
Last edited by DARKVIRUS on Nov 5th, 2003 at 11:30 PM
eh...if this is the place for opinions, then i'm half agreeing with darkvirus. most of the points were answered, but some answers were just too big a leap to accept. like, for example, how neo could "sense" the machines in the real world, and destroy them. it just didn't make any sense. beyond the philosophical view perhaps...but what happened to that? as well as i could see, this movie was a big action deal, sandwiched between some random dialogue and matrix fights. also, i thought the zion war was a little too overplayed for a matrix movie. i always thought these movies were above the level of most modern action films, but this giant war scene proved that point wrong. another disappointment was the super burly brawl. maybe just because we've seen it all before, but it just seemed a little too dull or too over-the-top. like when they crashed 50 feet into the concrete and got up and fought some more. and finally, the ending seemed a little corny. yay! the sunset is happy! people and machine are friends! i hope there are no more episodes, but i think that if we would all put our heads together, we could come up with a MUCH better plot to end these films.
as it stands, a good movie for those who like action stuff. everyone else, stay home and eat applesause. or whatever.
Yes sargoth, exactly right. Dont worry about these ppl when they come out and try to defend the wac. bros. they just need excuses to make this watered down conclusion a success in their own minds.
I'll tell you what I will put my faith in now to be the best dam trilogy of our time...well you know what come dec. you will know as well.
__________________ After the failure that was "the matrix revolutions" it is always good to know you CAN count on somethings to deliver. One trilogy to rule them all!
Mindbugaling> The thread title says it all. But if you think it does need a Spoiler heading, too, I’ll stick one up there.
Darkvirus> You’re once again entitled to your own opinion, and may feel as let down as you want to. So you didn’t like Revolutions? Fine, you didn’t. Just make up your damn mind about whether or not your questions were answered or not, it gets confusing when you write one thing in one sentence, and then another in another.
I don’t know who’s using the word “simpleton” here aside from you. And no one else aside from you are using words such as “highly intelligent”.
I also saw the movie twice. And your “proof” is again, your personal opinion. If you cannot understand that, then I cannot help you.
Imperial, Copenhagen, biggest theatre in the North. Big applause. Cinemaxx, Copenhagen 2½ hours later. Same thing.
__________________ "Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities."
-Voltaire
"That includes ruining Halloween because someone swallowed a Bible."
"I just thought you were a guy."
"... Most guys do."
"machines need us and we need them" there had to be a truce
whats wrong with the sunset? just showing what the girl does
i would have liked the end fight more if i hadnt watched the trailers....
also at the zero hour show i went to there was crazy applause.. my friends who went other places later in the day said the same thing.. perhaps you were busy trying to understand the movie because you didnt get it to notice virus?
Ok the omega or should i say oracle after that?. Bet you waited a long time to lay that line down on someone....hehehe. I think I am coming across clearly enough...and im pretty sure it was'nt an overwhelming applause you cannot satisfy everyone, lie if you want, does'nt hurt me at all. You can say most of the ppl has a great reaction to it and I would have believed that.
hehehe...yeah forumcrew I have been here this whole month talking about reloaded and i did'nt get this watered down conclusion..hehehe! *wipe's tear*
__________________ After the failure that was "the matrix revolutions" it is always good to know you CAN count on somethings to deliver. One trilogy to rule them all!
Last edited by DARKVIRUS on Nov 5th, 2003 at 11:39 PM
your just bringing up stupid points to try to bring people down.. and what omega said wasnt even the exact wording the oracle used.. so that was just stupid too
No I am not we ARE all entitled to our own opinions.....your doing nothing but trying to shut me down...im sure you enjoyed the whole movie....im sure everyone in the whole wide world enjoyed the movie, you're absolutely right forum, pffft.
Please state your opinion about the movie and about my statement dont be quick to jump on omega's side before you state your own opinion.
Im sorry the oracle said you '' just have to make up your own dam mind whether to believe me or not"....was that very different forumcrew?
__________________ After the failure that was "the matrix revolutions" it is always good to know you CAN count on somethings to deliver. One trilogy to rule them all!
Last edited by DARKVIRUS on Nov 5th, 2003 at 11:47 PM
Darkvirus> The only one, once again, talking about lying here is you. I’m sorry, but I don’t have to stoop to that around here, as it is just a forum, and what you may think about me, personally, is of absolutely no concern to me. And you want me to believe that not a single person applauded after the first showing? I do not.
However, if you wish to discuss what you feel are short-comings of Revolutions you’re free to do so. If you just wish to whine, open a thread on that subject, instead of resorting to childishness.
__________________ "Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities."
-Voltaire
"That includes ruining Halloween because someone swallowed a Bible."
"I just thought you were a guy."
"... Most guys do."
All im saying is do not insult me omega that's all.
Hah, I did'nt want to bring it up mister high and mighty but, who are you to judge what i came away with?.
Leave it here Omega with that statement you came at me first so buckle down buddy and let's hear other ppl opinion's.
__________________ After the failure that was "the matrix revolutions" it is always good to know you CAN count on somethings to deliver. One trilogy to rule them all!
Last edited by DARKVIRUS on Nov 5th, 2003 at 11:57 PM
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