Okay, I see a lot of threads stumbling over the question of what REALLY happened to the Matrix at the very end of Revolutions.
Here’s MY take on it. Let’s discuss it
Whatever Neo has set his mind on, when he decided to go to zero one is an entire topic in itself. Both he and Trin looked exhausted through the second part of Revolutions, as if they both, somehow, knew they wouldn’t “come back”.
When Trinity dies, Neo is fully prepared to sacrifice himself. He bargains with the Speak-machines (as we actually DID guess at here). I see the speak-machine as the machine-main frame in the real world. Or at the very least the master-control of it. The central data-base/processor.
So Neo fights Smith one last time. Why? Why doesn’t he simply let Smith take him over? Because he chooses to? Is it his final show of defiance, until he hears the Oracle through Smith telling him that “everything that has a beginning has an end?” And so, just like Neo destroyed Agent Smith from the inside, Smith infects Neo from the outside.
The Speak-machine registers this and sends the (compliment of SimplePriest) Norton Anti-virus through Neo’s body, into the Smith-infected digital self, from where it spreads to everyone infected by Smith.
Neo’s 1 and Smith’s –1 cancel each other. In the real world we see Neo’s body. He’s not breathing, nor moving, and he doesn’t get up, but is carried off like some Viking funeral (or like Boromir in LotR, or King Arthur in the Arthurian legends).
In the Matrix we don’t see Neo’s digital self next to the Oracle. The Matrix resets itself, the damage is repaired, and Sati wakes up. In the final scene we see “The Mother of the Matrix”, “The father of the Matrix” and “The child of the Matrix.”
IS the Matrix Reloaded? It can be, as the anomaly was returned to the Source (that is, at least, how I see it). But it doesn’t seem to loop back in time. Is it allowed to continue and grow?
I don’t think Neo’s become “God” of the Matrix. That would defy the theme of the Matrix movies. But has anyone here read Dune by Frank Herbert? Especially Dune Messiah?
The Oracle hints at “we” may some day see Neo again. So is he dead or not? Will his digital self wander the Matrix forever, looking for a trace of Trinity. That she alone, and not with Seraph and Morpheus went to Mobil Ave has made me ponder this a little. Especially as the ETM-players among us know, that the oracle specifically tells Niobe that TRINITY can help Neo.
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__________________ "Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities."
-Voltaire
"That includes ruining Halloween because someone swallowed a Bible."
"I just thought you were a guy."
"... Most guys do."
i think that line by the oracle suggests something similar to the second coming of christ (if you look at the religious themes) the peace will last as long as it can, then they go back to war b/c they cant live in harmony very well... the program known as the one will be re-inserted to start the cycle over, and maybe a different outcome will happen...
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Did you guys read that other theory about all of them actually being robots rahter than humans, and that humans are actually in control over those machines, rather then the other way arround
i like that theory..i think it fits really well...watch it with that theory in
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yeah, that was the theory that brought me here.... i really liked that idea cos u wouldnt know who the good guys were, and u would probably like the machines more cos u thought they were human, and it would be really confusing *HEAD EXPLODES*
Hmmm nice theory Omega but i dont think that they reloaded the matrix i think that they put Neos Code in to the sorce and then the arcutect 'Edited' the matrix hence the black cat.
I like Omega's theory, because its very much my theory as well...
however, the 'robots' theory does fit in really well...ive just watched M1 and M2 with that theory in mind....creepy
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Priestjim> Why? Or do you mean after he was unplugged by the machines again?
__________________ "Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities."
-Voltaire
"That includes ruining Halloween because someone swallowed a Bible."
"I just thought you were a guy."
"... Most guys do."
the matrix is all just a bad acid trip by neo, I believe there will be fourth movie where neo awakes in the hospital, and being told he has dropped more acid than any human as ever attempted
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i'm glad someone agree's. most people ask me how much acid im on when i tell them my theory.
See the fourth movie could be great. It would consist of Neo in Rehab. not believing it was all just a drug enduced fantasy. So the whole time he keeps trying to fly, and at the end he attempts to leap a building, but falls to his death
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The Matrix after Revolutions? (Spoilers)
Nov 9th, 2003 05:39 PM
