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Ushgarak
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What do you think the Oracle told Cipher?

(shrugs)

Just curious, it is something I think about. I get the feeling Cipher believed the Oracle.

I cannot help thinking that he wished what she said was "Make sure you always check if someone is dead when you shoot them..."

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Wellll.... Think about it.
She may've said "You, Cypher, has a pivotal role to play to end the war."
If Cypher had not betrayed Morpheus, Neo may never have become the One...

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whatever he needed to hear...

Jan 2nd, 2004 02:00 AM

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She said: "Never believe in Morpheus, kiddo..."

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she may have told him he would have to choose between something he knew and was comfortable with and something that was new to him... he would have to make a choice between the matrix and zion... when he was unplugging apoc and switch, i remember him saying "i choose the matrix"... the oracle may have told him that he would have to choose between a lie and the truth, a life of pleasure or a life of hardship... and knowing the oracle, she probably said all mysteriously... in any occasion, i think the oracle just presented him choices... that's my opinion...

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quote:
Originally posted by The Omega
Wellll.... Think about it.
She may've said "You, Cypher, has a pivotal role to play to end the war."
If Cypher had not betrayed Morpheus, Neo may never have become the One...

Or he might, we don't know that. I am happy to assume that Morpheus would have worked out how to get Neo to believe in himself without the drama of Cipher's betrayal forcing the situation.

I think Cipher most likely made a bad choice at some point.

Jan 3rd, 2004 12:12 AM

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I see how it it.....

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"Cypher.....Neo and Morpheus told Trinity u like men......"

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Ushgarak> Ah, you don�t believe in that �fate-crap�?

Jan 4th, 2004 12:33 AM

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I think Oracle did tell him this:

"Very soon, you are going to choose between this world and the real world."

and he chosed the Matrix.

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What do you think the Oracle told Cipher?

"In one hand, you'll have Morpheus's life. In the other, you'll have a juicy steak."
"......."
"Ignorance is bliss, eh Cypher?"
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well the question is: do you believe the oracle?

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Ushgarak
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Actually, Cipher raises a number of questions, like the lack of logic in what he says about the steak (though frankly I think that is best answered by saying- he's human, he doesn't HAVE to be logical...)