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The Ones what want out

At the End of Revolutions when the Oracle says to the Archy that what will happen to the Ones who want out of the MAtrix....

So shes saying that there Will be people in the Matrix who somehow kno that there living in a dream world?

1stly, the only way i would think they would kno is because of what happened in Revolutions, and in reloaded on the highway scene.

Ok, say if they did see all that wierd stuff how would they know that there a thing called THE MATRIX.... they would think there going mad and be locked up or summing.

How would they be contacted to be let out out there pods ?? Would the machines know if that person was ready to be let out? then just throw them down to Zion??

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well, the people in Zion are still alive...and can free humans without worrying about the system trying to kill them for trying. So it is very simple. The ones that are out help the ones that want out.


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ok, so they would jack in and goto some street and stand on a big box and Shout!!! YOUR LIFE ISNT REAL!!!! ITS ALL A DREAM!!!

How would they even beleve that

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it wouldn't be anydifferent than how neo found out or any other of the freed minds.. i though arty was simply saying that he wasn't going to try and stop those who wanted out


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it wouldn't be anydifferent than how neo found out or any other of the freed minds.. i though arty was simply saying that he wasn't going to try and stop those who wanted out


Exactly...They would 'keep on doing what they're doing'...


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which really makes you think.. IN the Matrix by the End of Rev.. nothing is different than when the movies started. the Lasting changes happened in the real world


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hmm im still very confused guys, U say they would find out like Neo did.

Neo was found my Morpheus, or he was guided by the telephone call

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yup but before that he had heard about it and i guess done research.
he wanted to know what the matrix was.. and morpheus showed him


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heard about it?

so there are groups? commiunties talking about stuff like " Is this a Real World"

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it's not really explained but Neo says that he had heard about the Mtrix when talking to trinity for the first time. so their are rumours. and he already knew about Morpheus and trinity..

Like Jedi said.. Nothing is really changing.. However people got freed before is still going on. Just now.. i guess the difference is.. Agents won't try to stop them from being freed.


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quote:
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heard about it?

so there are groups? commiunties talking about stuff like " Is this a Real World"


more like
"what is the matrix?"


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Where did they hear that from then

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i dunno.. but their's evidence of it in M1.
i'm assuming somewhere on the net

it was never really explained how they found out.. just that they did


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So how would the ones who would want to be Free Freed?

Would the try and find the people who are jacked into the Matrix then take the pill?

that would take for ever

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but the ones who want to be freed are a vast minority.

like i said no different than before


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can you please explane that in more detail m8,

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ok...just as before, people will know that there is something wrong with their world, something that gnaws at thier mind like a splinter in the minds eye. They feel something is not right, but they cannot tell what it is. The people on the outside can follow the code of the matrix, and can search, just like searching for a specific word in a document, for behaviour that is inherent to those that are 'caught in a dream, unable to awake'. This is the case with Neo. morpheus wasn't just walking in the matrix, then all of a sudden saw Neo and said, he's the one...it was a gradual process...and it has to be a gradual process...if all the people in the matrix found out tomorrow that the matrix is not real, and everyone wanted out, they would have a famine and overcrowding. As it is right now, Zion cannot hold 1/5000th of the people in the matrix...they will have to slowly build out, slowly clear the skies, start growing food, and begin to rebuild what was devastated by the war. It will take a VERY long time, and it is a good thing. besides, not everyone will want out of the matrix. Many will be content to live out their lives in an illusion. They will be opposed to being freed, and even if they found out the truth, they would rationalize it as a government project, or a subset of the populace, etc. But i am getting ahead of myself. how will the people be freed? the same way Neo was, and Trinity, and Switch, Apoc, Morpheus, Niobe, Cypher, etc., etc., etc...They will individually be given the choice, they will individually be freed, they will individually be plucked out of the metaphoric primordial ooze, they will each be told the truth.


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The reason why we never saw people get freed is because the Wachowskis ran out of money right towards the end, so did a quick college-grade media student type ending.

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Thank You Very Much JediHDM,

So when what happends when all humans get releasted?

The archy said they are willing to take Chances for there surival. So JediHDM just as you said they will clear the SKYS, and maby the Machines would use the Sun again instead of Power?

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yes...but that will take a long time. And remember, not everyone is gonna want to be released. so it may take 5, 10, 50 generations before everyone is willing to be freed. This might be enough time to clear the air, and to expand, start growing more wheat than they are already, etc.


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