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The Omega
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The end of The End

Well, it’s time to get back into the Matrix Universe.
(Yes, I know I’m not around much, I’m very busy!)

So, many movie-critics and movie-goers didn’t LIKE The Matrix Revolutions. Those of you who followed the (sometimes) heated debates right after November 5th probably remember the arguments.
Do you think the “anti-Revolutionists” would’ve liked the movie better if Trinity and Neo had not died or ended up in a undetermined state? What makes a happy ending??
The war is over, those who wants to, will be released from the Matrix. What else can we ask for?


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I think most of them didn't like it because the answers wasn't "spoon" fed to them and the ending wasn't "Happily Ever After" like in LOTR (yuck!). Alot of people (non-fans) didn't like all the talking in the beginning of the film. Me I loved it because it gave you important information (same with the Neo Haman convo in Reloaded). I love Revolutions!!!! Matter fact I love all 3. It's bad when you've seen a movie 30+ times and the Neo Trin part still gets to you.....now that's power! Maybe if Neo and Trin didn't die and went back to Zion in the end more folks would have liked it. Or maybe if Neo actually Beat Smith himself (without help). Those are some of the things my friends complain about.

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Personally, I like the ending the way it is. Revolutions gave all of us what we asked for. It is, in my opinion, the second best movie in the trilogy. Saying that, I think that Revolutions had the spirit of the first. A lot of dialogue was needed. Otherwise, you wouldn't have gotten wind of what was going on. I've also heard some complaints about the Super Brawl at the end of the movie. People have said that all it was was "bashing into each other," and, "a slap fight in the rain." I think they're wrong. That was the fight to end all fights and it was spectacular. The choreography was great and well designed and the cinematography, put together with the incredible Don Davis score, made it perfect. For all the Revolutions-bashers out there, consider watching the movie again when it comes out on video, I guarentee you will try and reconsider...

EVERYTHING THAT HAS A BEGINNING, HAS AN END.

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I love the fact that Neo dies


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OMG...This question again...roll eyes (sarcastic) I liked Rev but its not even close to the first Matrix...And that is the point in my opinion..It's hard to overcome such expectation caused by the 1st movie...I think the Super Wacho Bros tried to make a kind of "live action" anime and Neo became a Super Hero with fantastic powers sad...I was not surprised by the end of Revolutions...If you have ever watched Akira or Ghost in the Shell you'll notice the Anime influence over Neo's fate.


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The end of The End

I know what you mean. I was kinda ticked with the ending at first. But there are so many levels to look at it, and I love that in a movie. The only way the ending could have been better was if:

A. After the Oracle says to expect the One to reapper, she says, "Oh, by the way Sati, I got you a pet. I thought you might like it."
The Oracle pulls a cage from behind the bench and gives it to Sati. No one sees what's in the cage though.
Sati happily thanks the Oracle and says, "I'll take good care of it."
The Oracle says, "That's good to know. Because this animal is important."
The moviegoers know see the animal in the cage is a white rabbit! Then the camera zooms into the rabbit's black eyes and we see the Matrix code streaming down a black screen like at the beginning. Then the credits roll.
B. After the Oracle says, "Not always, but I believed." The sun then pales in comparison to the sky and we see Neo and Trinity kissing EXACTLY like in the trainstation reunion.

But these are just the ways I would have ended it. NOTHING else would change.

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miffed I dont like "Ends".


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Just the fact that there is no more matrix prolly pissed off a lot of critics, and ya, Neo dying prolly pissed off a lot Christians who thought the guy was Jesus, which he most definately was notsad


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I liked the ending to Revolutions. The only way Neo could possibly defeated Agent Smith was that he had to sacrifice his life too. That's a great story. I hate the movies that have the super happy endings. I didn't care for the peace between the humans and machines though.

There are twi ways I would've ended it:
A. The war goes on and on until finally, the humans win the war. They find that they can't possibly free everyone from the Matrix. The code is virtually unbreakable and there are just too many people to free by hand.
B. Neo wakes up. He was told throughout these three movies that he's been living in a dream world when he was actually dreaming about Morpheus, Trinity, Zion, etc.


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i wish it was all a dreamthumb up


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The first film is a classic and great stand alone film.

M2+3 are then there if people connected with the first film and want to see how deep the rabbit hole goes.

people who wanted a re-hashing of M1's plot and then a happy ending were always going to be disappointed.

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i agree with mook it does seem like m1 and m2+3 were somewhat separate. I mean they could have ended the matrix story with the end of the first movie, but then there wouldn't have been an Animatrix, or a comic book and to me the sequels do build on what M1 started.


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The problem is not the sad end (the only way to end the trilogy...)...Smith copying himself onto Neo is kinda heretic thing in my point of view...sad


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The first time I saw Revolutions, I didn't care too much for the ending, but the second time I saw it, I realized that how it ended was probably the best way you could end the Matrix. Now that I've seen it three more times, I love the ending. I went with my friend to see it last month, and after the movie we spent a half-hour sitting in Starbucks by the theater (while waiting for her mom to pick us up) debating over the ending, what it really meant, if Neo was still alive or actually dead, etc. I think the reason a lot of people didn't like Reloaded and Revolutions is because they go so much deeper than M1 did...M1 was a lot more straightforward than M2 and M3. They didn't like all the talking. But it was necessary, I think. A story like the Matrix can't be entirely explained by Neo vs. the Agents. And a trilogy like the Matrix simply wouldn't be able to have a happy ending like LoTR...but some people just don't want to accept the fact that sometimes the good guys, and even the heros, will die. And I've seen Revolutions 4 times now, and I still cry every time during the scene where Trinity dies...

My final opinion? Great trilogy, great ending. And the Animatrix rocks yes


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Yeah I think the ending was great too and the movies were great!!! smokin'


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ya, they were, but i expected something more than just greatsad


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the ending of revolutions was probably not the ending everybody expected... or should i say wanted. people are suckers for happy ending. but there is no purpose for neo to live. he saved zion, defeated smith and trinity is dead. what else is there for him?


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his purpose after that would be to live on in 2 more sequals and kik some program asscool


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the thing abt the matrix series is that it takes time to comprehend them.....this is how it happens
first u go to the movie hall and appreciate all the axn and cant stop talking abt it.....
after this u think abt what u just saw and then want to see it again and again to see it from every pt of view.....
i dunno how many times i have seen it already in theatre itself i have seen revos 4 times on normal screen and 2 times on imax....and i cant get enough and seen countless times on vcd......

if the aim of the movie is not to make u think abt certain aspects then i dunno what it is ......


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Originally posted by Trinity_Matrix
My final opinion? Great trilogy, great ending. And the Animatrix rocks yes

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