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Been a while, got a question

I was watching M1 last night for #20000000 and i noticed that when Morpheus is talking to Neo shortly after he free's his mind and he throws up blah blah blah Morpheus tells Neo of the first Neo. And he says that the oracle prophisized that neo would be reincarnated into neo now and free all the minds in the matrix and DESTROY THE MATRIX. in caps for purpose. So in the end of revolutions the prophecy is not fulfilled. The war isn't over. WTF do the W bros. want to hint that or do you just think they missed it. Because i missed it for the past 2 years and i just picked it up. ANy thoughts.

P.S. I havent been here in a while. Sup guys, gals, hows it been hows it goin. Hope im not too late.


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it depends on your point of view

it could be construed that smith taking over everything and everyone in the matrix was destroying the matrix...

but then given that the prophecy was all a big lie anyway simply to control neo back to the source...then its pretty much irrelevant


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Yea, true , didn't think of that. good point


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this is the 1st matrix me neo remaking the matrix to become thomas anderson hahaha my Q how many time did neo get shot in the hotel cool

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i'd say 8 because the standard .45 for the DEagle is 8 round clip but the .50 is 6 or 5 if i can remember but im not sure. can we get back on topic please


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It really isn't a FACT that the prophecy is a lie, thats just what the architect leads us to belive. But remember that the Oracle never admited to that, so its a matter of debate. As for freeing people from the matrix and ending the war, we still have Sati! Listen to the dialogue between Ghost and the oracle from the Enter the Matrix footage, and you will see that Sati has a great role to play in the Matrix story line. i do not believe that the W. Brothers introduced her character lightly.


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Morpheus tells Neo of the first Neo. And he says that the oracle prophisized that neo would be reincarnated into neo now and free all the minds in the matrix and DESTROY THE MATRIX. in caps for purpose. So in the end of revolutions the prophecy is not fulfilled. The war isn't over. WTF do the W bros. want to hint that or do you just think they missed it. Because i missed it for the past 2 years and i just picked it up. ANy thoughts.


as stated in the films somewhere (can't remember)........the Oracle tells people what they need to know. How much of what Morpheus tells Neo is true? From Morpheus's perspective he's speaking of the first "one".......but we all find out later that the man Morpheus is speaking of is really the fifth "one".

The war with the machines has been over for centuries. The machines won. The Architect tells us clearly that Zion is ALLOWED to exist.......it is allowed to exist because it has a purpose. It's purpose is to sway the anomaly into choosing to reinsert his code into the prime program of the Matrix. If he chooses to not do so, he will bring about the end of the human race............the Matrix will crash killing all humans jacked in to it.......the machines will kill every person in Zion. By choosing to reinsert his code he is ALLOWED to choose more people to free to rebuild Zion.........to ensure it is still around to sway the next anomaly that pops up.

The humans only believe the war is ongoing. It is all a rouse by the machines. They know exactly where Zion is and can kill every person in it..........and have done so several times in the past. They are nothing more than specimens in the machines' zoo, allowed to live only to serve the purpose of swaying the anomaly into saving the Matrix.

as for Sati.........I really don't see what you're getting at Superfly. All machines/programs have a purpose. Her purpose is to govern sunrises.....she is an exile no longer. She has nothing to do with the program anomaly inherit to the programming of the Matrix.........an anomaly that only pops up every hundred years or so........she is simply a program with a purpose now. Just like the oracle. The oracle's purpose is to guide the one on his path to ensure he reaches the mainframe and meets the architect...........Any program lacking a purpose is deleted........Sati is now safe from being deleted.


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Did you look at the footage from Enter the MAtrix?


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Why?


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Because there is some very important dialogue between the oracle and Ghost concerning sati.


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ofcourse I did all the Enter the Matrix........beat it with both characters a week after it came out. Give me the specific .fmv you want me to watch again.........I'll do so.


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from the last part of revolutions i got the feeling that sati was the next one, but its kinda far-fetched


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yes........really far fetched...........being as she's a machine program, not a human being. She wasn't even created in the Matrix, she was smuggled in by the Merovingian. (the "one" is an anomaly in the Matrix's program)............


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Maybe sati is an anomoly in the matrix, giving reason for why the merovingian had to smuggle her in and why the oracle has so much interest in her.


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Maybe sati is an anomoly in the matrix, giving reason for why the merovingian had to smuggle her in and why the oracle has so much interest in her


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The "one" is an anomaly that occurs within the Matrix program........

Sati was not created in the Matrix, she was not spawned from the Matrix program as Thomas Anderson was. She was not created by the Matrix.......therefore she has nothing to do with the Matrix programming. Her code was not written by the Matrix........therefore the Matrix could not have made an error in writing her code (the anomaly)............

It is explained quite thoroughly in the movies why Sati is being smuggled into the Matrix. She is a program without purpose. Programs without purpose are deleted. Her parents did not want to see her deleted so they paid the Merovingian to smuggle her into the Matrix to hide.......to prevent deletion.


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My question is , why does the merovingian take the time to smuggle her in, and the oracle take the time to protect her if she does not have some greater value? If you have the ultimate matrix Collection, go to the enter the matrix scenes and find the scene between the oracle and ghost. The oracle explains there that she did indeed see some greater value in sati that was never explained in the matrix movies.


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My question is , why does the merovingian take the time to smuggle her in, and the oracle take the time to protect her if she does not have some greater value?


why did he smuggle her in? Because Rama gave him the code to the Oracle's shell.......which is used to explain the changing actresses in the movies. That was his price........"Rama.....you get me the Oracle's code, I'll smuggle your daughter into the Matrix for you so she doesn't get deleted".


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If you have the ultimate matrix Collection, go to the enter the matrix scenes and find the scene between the oracle and ghost. The oracle explains there that she did indeed see some greater value in sati that was never explained in the matrix movie


true.......but what? It never says. Perhaps it's going to be covered in the next movie.............but it's impossible she is an anomolous program created by the Matrix.....because she was not created by the Matrix. She was created by 2 programs.....Rama and his wife (can't recall name) who then paid to have her smuggled into the Matrix so she could hide out of fear of deletion. At the end of Revolutions we learn she has been given a purpose.......so all is well with her......she no longer has to hide because only programs without purpose are deleted.


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Its not a fact that sati has a purpose at the end of revolutions, its more implied.


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