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bogmac
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 A bit Late ==> Question about Cypher, Help !!!
First of all, I apologize for this question related to 'Matrix'. I'm 4 years late but I've just discovered this forum. And in the real word , still nobody answered me
So, here it is:
Considering that :
1-To enter the matrix from the Neb, you need an operator to plug you to it (Tank or another)
2- to get out of the matrix you need, first of all , to call your operator to get a point of connexion, and then, you need to be plugged off by the same operator
The question is :
How Cypher can he speak with Agent smith in the Matrix whithout the help of a member of the crew.
I mean he can't have entered the matrix on his own, he can't have plugged the needle into his neck.
And who take the needle off ?
Much more, when he was in the Matrix, The operator or another member should have seen Cypher on his seat and should have seen him on his screen.
Please help, I'm waiting for the answer since 1999
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May 28th, 2003 12:25 PM |
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trilight
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I noticed that too. I don't think the movie gives an explanation.
Your just going to have to 'suspend your disbelief' and assume it's possible.
He might have figured out a way.
Suggestion: A mechanism that when you ring the operator phone, it automatically picks up and starts ringing a phone at your chosen Exit.
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May 28th, 2003 02:15 PM |
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Chaos
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But if they had 'a mechanism' like that, why didnt they use it in other situations 
Maybe someone did help him plug into the matrix, but he went to the Agent instead if the place he said he would go, then one of the Agents changed the code so the operator couldnt read it. I dunno lol 
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May 28th, 2003 02:20 PM |
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trilight
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It's just a suggestion.
Cypher may have kept it a secret. They might know that it's possible, but have rules that no-one can go in without an operator.
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May 28th, 2003 02:25 PM |
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bogmac
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thanks for answer Chaos, that's the best explanation one gives to me in 4 years.
Well, I'm gonna see Reloaded once again. Just to shake my brain a little more.
Thanks for your welcome.
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May 28th, 2003 02:30 PM |
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Chaos
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Hehehe, NP
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May 28th, 2003 02:30 PM |
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Ushgarak
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The real question is (though those preceeding words are lies, its blatantly MY question, not the real one) was how was Cypher going to be in Reloaded before Joe Pantoliano messed up the deal to return?
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May 28th, 2003 05:31 PM |
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Dexx
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i have thought about that question a lot when it came. Sofisticated devices and other stuff are out of the question in my oppinion. it's either a bug OR:
That talk with the agent is a memory, before he was 'extracted'. But even if the agents would have prepared him for the 'oh, no..it's all unreal' news..he still seemed too ...not shocked.
So...i dunno!
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May 28th, 2003 08:05 PM |
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alaba
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this is silly but i like it. remeber tank wasnt in reloaded? what if tank had helped cypher out, and is now evil, which is why we didnt seehim in reloaded but we would in revolutions?(as a baddie?)
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May 28th, 2003 08:10 PM |
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Dexx
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highly unlikely. Tank KILLED cipher, you see
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May 28th, 2003 08:12 PM |
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alaba
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sure dexx but i am sure i saw tanks back in front of a computer monitor in the revolutions trailer...can't miss his curled hair....see the trailer again
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May 28th, 2003 08:34 PM |
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Reep
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Re: Cypher. How about this. When the crew go into the matrix they hack in (in Reloaded the new operator says "this is the ugliest hack I have ever done" to get Trinity in with the motorcycle). If cypher went in on the night shift to see the agents, he wouldn't need to hack in because they want to see him. So he could just hook up and go through proper channels assisted by the matrix/agents? Just a guess.
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May 29th, 2003 12:21 AM |
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BEST TRINITY
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I think the Bros forgot to explain how cypher got in
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Jun 2nd, 2003 03:08 PM |
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Higgypop
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May be an agent sheilded Cypher from the matrix (like in the corridors in Reloaded) while he spoke to him and made the arrangments so that the opporator didn't notice him talking to the agent.
Last edited by Higgypop on Jun 2nd, 2003 at 04:16 PM
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Jun 2nd, 2003 03:21 PM |
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alaba
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plausible explanation higgy..i like it. it's like covering the brothers' tracks...
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Jun 2nd, 2003 06:20 PM |
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Higgypop
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Don't you see him bun his mobile at some point when they enter the Matrix, I think he then went to meet the agent and the agents cloaked his where abouts so the the op couldn't see where he was or what he was doing.
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Jun 2nd, 2003 06:47 PM |
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alaba
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right again...the brothers would be delighted o hear your theories mate!
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Jun 2nd, 2003 08:04 PM |
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Higgypop
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Sorry, my theory may not be bad but my typing is.
Bun should read bin, he binned his mobile.
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Jun 3rd, 2003 12:11 AM |
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BEST TRINITY
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THERE IS SOMETHING RELATED TO THE ARQUITECT REMEMBER THAT HES BEEN WATCHING NEO BOFORE HE WAS UNPLUGGED
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Jun 3rd, 2003 12:19 AM |
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