I finally gathered the 'courage' to stop being a lurker and actually post on here. My friend and I were discussing the various villains of the Marvel Cinematic Universe and where they rank in terms of 'power' after watching GotG.
I came up with this. Any feedback would be appreciated.
MCU Villains List
Iron Man - Obadiah Stane/Iron Monger, Raza
Hulk - Abomination, Thaddeus Ross
Iron Man 2 - Whiplash, Justin Hammer
Thor - Loki, Laufey, Destroyer
Captain America - Red Skull, Armin Zola
Avengers - Chitauri, Thanos
Iron Man 3 - Aldrich Killian, Trevor Slattery, Eric Savin, Ellen Brandt
Thor 2 - Malekith, Algrim/Kurse
Captain America 2 - Alexander Pierce, Winter Soldier, Brock Rumlow, Georges Batroc, Jack Collins
Guardians - Ronan, Nebula, Korath
Well Ironman 3's portrayal of Ironman and his suits was horrible.
His suit would fall apart clumsily throughout the whole movie. Like if made out of aluminum legos.
Pretty laughable quality in suits compares to what had been shown in Marvels other movies. Especially the fight with Thor and getting shredded by the hellcarrier propellers, and other feats. Non of which made the suits fall apart like they did in Ironman 3.
Thats why I questions Killians power. He was pretty powerful but, I certainly wouldnt put him above Loki or Ronin.
even in scenes where Ironman didn't fight anyone the suits were falling apart.
if he crashed into something for example the suit would fall to the floor in pieces.
that's horrible considering the kind of abuse the suits went through in all the previous movies and stayed intact besides scratches and dents.
And by that time in the CMU timeline ,the suits were suppose to be better and improved. Not shittier. The director/producer dropped the ball on that aspect.
I've gone back on forth on that too, especially since as you point out the suits theoretically should have improved over time.
Perhaps their frailty can be linked back Tony's experience in Avengers. In IM3 he was having panic attacks and he was clearly more restless than usual. His outlet was building several dozen Iron Man suits however, given his state of mind and rapid production the suits overall quality clearly suffered.
The whole thing just makes determining Aldrich Killian's rank that much harder, especially compared to Tier 3 Villains. This is fun!
Its alot like the comics in that sense too. It seems that when the suits are remote controlled they're like fodder, but between super pepper and Stark just saying phuck it and blowing up all his suits (a scene NOBODY would want to see but they gave us anyway) the whole ending felt like a giant middle finger lol
Pretty much JayDaDon and eaebiakuya. Although I did like IM3 more than IM2.
That's a good point, whether or not the Orb boosted his durability. Why do you think it didn't? The Aether seemed to boost Malekith's durability, while the Tesseract didn't seem to boost anybody's.
You're right Thanos doesn't have on screen feets yet, so it is more conjecture than anything. We know he sent Loki and Ronan in pursuit of Infinity Stones, which would suggest he wasn't fearful of what they would do to him once they retrieved them.
I didn't think about that. You make a good point and maybe it should be taken into consideration how difficult it is to be separated from the artifact when determining who is most powerful.
i'd put kurse higher, tbh. mainly because he's so much more powerful than anyone else you've grouped him with, that it's almost laughable. destroyer and abomination were both sub-thor-level, while kurse was so much more powerful than thor, that he made him look like a pathetic feeb in comparison. not only were ALL of thor's attacks rendered completely ineffectual, but kurse utterly/effortlessly thrashed him physically--something not even hulk came close to doing during their extended melee. heck, the only force we saw harm kurse was a friggin' mini black hole.
anyhow, i'd definitely put kurse above loki /w/ scepter. heck, given heimdall's performance against loki /w/ casket(nearly powering through, and ultimately shattering out of, the ice), i might even put kurse above laufey /w/ casket. /shrug
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Last edited by Galan007 on Aug 5th, 2014 at 11:47 PM
Yah, Keep in Mind Thor was holding back during his fight with Hulk on the Hellicarrier...he was trying to reason with him and get him to stop fighting. Thor wasn't holding back against Kurse and got destroyed. Kurse >> Hulk or Thor (at least in the cinematic universe).
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