To keep Voldemort from just using Avadah Kedavra instantly, Godric has Harry Potter's wand (Let's just say it used to belong to Gryffindor) And yes, Gryffindor has his sword.
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okay, let's travel back to "chamber of secrets."
when salazar slytherin first created it, he could not, and so would not, use it and the basilisk whilst godric was also at hogwwarts. this implies that salazar would not have been able to best godric, had he found proof of the chamber.
in hp canon, the Founders are The Most Powerful - more so than Dumbledore, and definitely more powerful than Voldemort.
voldemort is less powerful that slytherin. slytherin is less powerful [or at least afraid of] gryffindor.
if a beats b, and b is greater than c, a beats c.
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Where do you get this bogus? Voldemort is stated as pushing toe boundries of magic farther than anyone else and is called the darkest wizard of all time... He wins.
He is the darkest wizard of all time, not the greatest.
I think we haven't heard enough about Gryffindor, but I would bet he'd give Voldemort a very hard time. Not sure who would win, but that would definitely be a bad ass fight.
Remember that Voldermort became almost immortal, he mastered dark arts better than any other wizard in the past. The battle between the two would be a delight to be written and discussed
I would have to say Voldy. He was "The Most Powerful Dark Wizard of All Time" right? That point has been clearly stated several time in the novels so he would logically be more powerful than Slytherin (who was a dark wizard if i remember correctly) so to say Gryffindor is automatically above Voldemort cuz he was above Slytherin is faulty.
Voldemort is directly stated to be the most powerful dark Wizard of all time, and is demonstratably superior by a great deal to Grindelwand, who is number two.
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I get my "bogus" either directly from the books or from things that JK Rowling has shared with the world.
And this whole - most powerful dark wizard - thing?
Dumbledore is more powerful. He knows the dark and the light magic
If Voldy won't use the light magic because he thinks it's 'under' him, then at once Dumbledore is better.
But the Founders have only Merlin above them, in the food chain list of wizard powers, so Godric, who is already more powerful than Dumbledore [who is more powerful than Voldy already] will beat Voldy.
Rules of dueling found in Chamber of Secrets, Dumbledore > Voldy found in Sorcerer's Stone through Deathly Hallows, Founders power levels found in JK Rowling interview.
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Once again where do you get the idea that the Founders are somehow above Dumbledore and Voldy? That's not supported at all by the books. In fact, the best thing stated about the founders that I recall is that they were the greatest witches and wizards of their age.
Meanwhile, Voldemort is repeatedly called the mightest dark wizard to grace the world in the books which should put him above Slytherin. And once again, Dumbeldore claims he pushed the boundreis of magic farther than anyone.
Basically, their is ample evidence provided by characters in the books that Voldemort is greater than the founder while their is none to the contrary.
And no, Dumbeldore is not he most powerful dark wizard as he isn't a dark wizard... In fact, I can't beleive I had to say that! Yes, he may know dark magic but so does almost every character in the book. That doesn't make them dark wizards however.
Also A>B>C logic doesnt work in vs fights. After all, Harry beat Voldy but that doesn't mean he can beat Dumbledore.
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Her old site, the one she kept running while she was writing the books. I'm not sure exactly. I don't think that site's running now, not since the release of seven sometime. POTTERMORE is her new website.
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