Your not basing this on the films right? the most dagerous Villains Spiderman has faced are Green Goblin, Venom, Doc Ock, Hobgoblin, Electro, the Lizard, and Mysterio
Carnage is insanely dangerous but not much of a threat, as soon as he gets lose he's cuaght again. Spidey's real foes keep him scared outa his boots 24/7
you wanna know underated? the Shocker, he has beaten Spidey, over and over and knowbody even knows who he is.
how many of Spidey's villains have had Spiderman in the palm of their hands and let him go twice? not too many but Shocker was one of em
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Gotta be Venom. He was created partly out of hatred towards Peter/Spidey, so theres an emotional bond. He's got all of spidey's powers, but none of his morals.
Plus, he looks really evil and menacing. You know seeing that guy face to face would make you tinkle your drawers.
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I would the green goblin not for strength wise hurting spiderman he hurt him mentally screwing withg his mind in the spidergirl comic a new green goblin took his leg. And his daughter then went up against him and beat him but venom is his most dangerous enemy.
Scariest villain ? Carnage, who else ? He kills without reason. No, wait, maybe he has a reason, he kills for fun.
He's a superpowered bloodthirsty screwed up psycho who couldn't care less about the human lives he has taken. The Joker from Batman at least has some kind of twisted logic behind his evil schemes. Not Carnage. Going on a killing spree, that's all he cares for.
Now I find that pretty scary.
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I think Venom is a bit more psychologically scary, since he knows Spidey so well, he can get in his head. Carnage is a maniac, but he's not very smart.
Besides, lets just admit that Carnage is just a "we need another Venom-type character" character. He's never as good as the original.
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Hm, that's your opinion. I agree that the original Venom is a better character, but that's not the point. The thread is : who is the scariest/strongest villain of Spider-Man, not who is the best character ? Strongest, I wouldn't have a clue. Scariest, I think Carnage.
Besides, even IF Venom is a bit more psychologically scary, he just doesn't go killing people because he feels like it. It's quite possible to have a conversation (sort of) with Venom without being afraid that your head will be bitten off. He - sometimes - can be quite reasonable.
Can NOT say the same from Carnage. So, in my opinion, Carnage is scarier.
the most dagerous Villains Spiderman has faced are Green Goblin, Venom, Doc Ock, demon (or demoniac i dont know) Hobgoblin, Electro, the Lizard, shoker (he is herman schults a former electronic repair who turn into roberry after inventing those shocking waves gloves , ok?), carnage is a hard stuff .its becouse who ever invented him didnt know marvel dont allow too much blood so they had to weakedned him but in his first appearence he beated spider and venom togueter.,
but as u said scariest lets face it ok?
on fifth comes kraven how would u like to be hunted over the town an trheatened to a personal hunt?.
in fourth harry as GG u wouldnt like ur best friend trheating u and ur family.....
Venom knows parker identity and is a huge monster what put him on top of list but in third place,
in second carnage aas even batman said once "looking into his eyes is like looking into death itself' - i wouldnt like to face him........
in first place of course................................... JOHN JONAH JAMESON """"""" why? how about having to survive needing to work for that monster? have every thing .every siple good act turned into a monstuous one ....be a menace when u were the hero
say this 24 hours for 365 days??????
(lol its a joke every old spidey knows johna likes parker like a son and only hates spider cos he took the glory from his sun........but in fat hes jealous) i loved when johna payed parker layer show he had feelings for pete. (like a son heh.......)
first place goes for uncle ben and his trheatining curse - with great powers comes great responsability - LOL again sorry
now i mean it who i PERSONALLY think desearves the title scariest and strongest spider man vilain is really ok ( althoug hes fatso) cos think facing a guy even more briliant then u wth four powerfull arms that can do almost anything into unleashing damage......wow i dont want to face him
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Venom WAS the scariest character, when he first started out. He became good, became a fully fledged awesome character as deep as Peter himself.
They needed something to fill the void psuedo-speaking, and I guess they made Carnage to take Venoms place as the true Spidey villain.
Villains are generally stronger than the heroes (except in the world of that wimp called Superman), its a better story and creates a sense of serious danger.
THEN: Venom was the scariest and strongest
NOW: Carnage is the scariest and the strongest
Venom is a goodie now, his character has evolved.
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Yeah, when I think of Venom, I think of the nasty oldschool villian that was fixated on killing Peter/Spidey. I haven't followed the new anti-hero Venom...I'm just not into that.
I really hope Raimi uses the 'original' Venom for the third flick. I mean c'mon, he'd be stupid not to use Venom. With CGI technology what it is today, you could do that character so well cinematically. Either that or have Harry become the Green/Hobgoblin. Those are the only two choices that make sense.
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well i see all your points. carnage and venom are both probably the scariest villains, in the bloodthirsty evil sosciopath kind of way, but if we're talking evil scientist (aka SMART dangerous villain) then Doc Ock gets my vote.
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Psychologically speaking, I would say his clone. He had to fight his demons against Ben Reilly 20 yrs later feared dead the real Peter Parker returned. If that isn't a true inner villain I don't know what is.
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are you kidding me? mysterio is a complete loser. that's why daredevil talked him into comitting suicide (you are talking about quentin beck, right?)
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but most here should agree Carnage is the "scariest" and most dangerous
he isnt the strongest, becuase Rhino and Sandman have more physical power, but NONE of them come close to his homicidal capacity.
I used to think Carnage was rather cardboard cutout of a wanna bee Ted Bundey but after thinking about this thread I took a second glance and realized just how mentaly obscene Kassidy is.
FvsJ do you read comics much? cuase DareDevil is well THEE Marvel Knight, He has probably the best run story wise out of every comic hero out there calling him a loser is NOT classy. save thos thoughts for some random X-man. any will work
Mysterio can cuase hallucinations slight visual magic tricks.
Carnage is self destructive, his insane homicidal needs stem from him wanting to die. He would surely know Killing DD would cuase a backlash he couldnt handle and he would be killed by a number of hero's who owe their freedom or life to him.
actually it could make for a good what if' but Marvel wouldnt do that in the actual universe
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OK, I take back my answer.
The entire clone storyline is Spidey's biggest and scariest enemy. That horrible mess nearly killed Spidey for real back in the day. I can't believe someone had the gall to bring that up. You oughta be ashamed of yourself, buddy.
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I would the green goblin not for strength wise hurting spiderman he hurt him mentally screwing withg his mind in the spidergirl comic a new green goblin took his leg. And his daughter then went up against him and beat him but venom is his most dangerous enemy.
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