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Question Spiderman or Manspider? (Dedicated 2 Mr Parker)

Who agrees with me? Is it spiderman or manspider?
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The reason that "Spider-man" was choosen was because the name just sounded right. I learned that from a Stan Lee interview.


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manspider sounds stupid thats why...lol


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Depends on your personal opinion.

Spider-Man to me.

But if some people think Man-Spider then thats their right.


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It's pretty simple. He was a man first, then became bit, so in essence, he's a Man-Spider, having adopted the characteristics, but that sounds stupid, so its reversed for marketability.

The same can't be said for Superman, or "Man-Super", as he was born with his gift.

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Mr. Parker and I have had discussions about this and I agree with him. Man-Spider only applies to Sony's Spiderman. The original Spiderman from marvel is a scientist who builds and creates his own webbing. His superpowers came after the fact he was bitten by a radio active spider. Thus, the title is more fitting in the comics as Spiderman. But the version from Sony does no justice to the character. He is fully mutated (which I won't go on with this because is a whole different topic) and shoots his webbing from his organic body. That makes him a mutant. Whereas the Comic Book version clearly explained he was not a mutant when Spidey transformed himself into the Man-Spider saga in which he grows 4 arms.

Just recently Mr Parker and I discuss the issue of Batman. A friend of my was introduced into our logic of Man-Spider. But he rejected that logic by making the statement that the same can be said about Batman. Meaning that it would be more logical to call him Man-Bat. But this is where his logic fails. Batman has no superpowers nor did he became a bat. However! Batman has an adversary known as Man-Bat. This Man-Bat has the similar case as Spiderman. Man-Bat is illogical for Batman (Bruce Wayne) because there is no organic change from a man to an animal nor there is a mutation. Bruce chose the symbol of the bat (for discussion purposes we will use the word "chose" in this case. This could be argued later in another thread) to strike fear into the hearts of criminals. Within time he became a myth, a legend, and finally a reality for the crime world in Gotham.

With Superman is a totally and different case. Superman was not born a man first and then gain powers. He was born with his super powers at child birth. Thus "Man-Super" does not apply. Is a bit tricky with these names.

Examples Captain America was not really a Captain he was a private.

Mr Fantastic was not really fantastic he was first Scientist Reed Richards and then became Mr Fantastic by accident.

A clear example is Thor. Much like Superman Thor was born with his powers and then he created his secret identity. You can't call him Man-Thor because is ludicrous and the same with Superman.


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man-spider is probably the right interpritation (sp?) of what he is but like you say it doesnt sound right


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I agree with WD, it should've been called Manspider, only because the Spider man movie was so inaccurate.


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I agree with WD, it should've been called Manspider, only because the Spider man movie was so inaccurate.


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It definitely should be Manspider.

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Originally posted by WindDancer
Mr. Parker and I have had discussions about this and I agree with him. Man-Spider only applies to Sony's Spiderman. The original Spiderman from marvel is a scientist who builds and creates his own webbing. His superpowers came after the fact he was bitten by a radio active spider. Thus, the title is more fitting in the comics as Spiderman. But the version from Sony does no justice to the character. He is fully mutated (which I won't go on with this because is a whole different topic) and shoots his webbing from his organic body. That makes him a mutant. Whereas the Comic Book version clearly explained he was not a mutant when Spidey transformed himself into the Man-Spider saga in which he grows 4 arms.

Just recently Mr Parker and I discuss the issue of Batman. A friend of my was introduced into our logic of Man-Spider. But he rejected that logic by making the statement that the same can be said about Batman. Meaning that it would be more logical to call him Man-Bat. But this is where his logic fails. Batman has no superpowers nor did he became a bat. However! Batman has an adversary known as Man-Bat. This Man-Bat has the similar case as Spiderman. Man-Bat is illogical for Batman (Bruce Wayne) because there is no organic change from a man to an animal nor there is a mutation. Bruce chose the symbol of the bat (for discussion purposes we will use the word "chose" in this case. This could be argued later in another thread) to strike fear into the hearts of criminals. Within time he became a myth, a legend, and finally a reality for the crime world in Gotham.

With Superman is a totally and different case. Superman was not born a man first and then gain powers. He was born with his super powers at child birth. Thus "Man-Super" does not apply. Is a bit tricky with these names.

Examples Captain America was not really a Captain he was a private.

Mr Fantastic was not really fantastic he was first Scientist Reed Richards and then became Mr Fantastic by accident.

A clear example is Thor. Much like Superman Thor was born with his powers and then he created his secret identity. You can't call him Man-Thor because is ludicrous and the same with Superman.
That is as detailed as it gets. But the comic book Spiderman is classified as " An illegal genetic mutation" Mutants are born with their powers.( Spidergirl inherited it from her dad.) Genetic mutations either puposely tampered with their genetic structure or in Peters case, It happened by accident. The man- Spider is still a result of the Peters genetic makeup becoming screwed. It wasn't exacty his fault. ( Cartoon Spidey I can blame.)


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Originally posted by WindDancer

Examples Captain America was not really a Captain he was a private.

Mr Fantastic was not really fantastic he was first Scientist Reed Richards and then became Mr Fantastic by accident.


Now, he being Fantastic is strictly opinion, lol. If I thought he were an *******, he's be Mr. *******. The rest of the crew take on his namesake, they'd be the Assholes 4, or Four Assholes.

That said, did Doctor Doom ever really get his degree? ninja

(BTW, excellent summerization for the non-comic fans.)

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Now, he being Fantastic is strictly opinion, lol. If I thought he were an *******, he's be Mr. *******. The rest of the crew take on his namesake, they'd be the Assholes 4, or Four Assholes.

That said, did Doctor Doom ever really get his degree? ninja

(BTW, excellent summerization for the non-comic fans.)
Wow . And I really wanted to see the FF movie to...


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Is this entire thread a joke? Mr. Parker would always complain about the spider-man movies. I think he was almost banned several times. If you don't believe me you can read his old posts. Are you guys trying to get him to come back?


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I agree.

This thread was not necessary and just an obvious attempt to provoke a flame war.

Pathetic.


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Hey thats not nice its an okay thread...Thats why I didn't start it I knew someone was gonna come and be all moodie.


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How is this a nice thread???

Please explain.


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No one breathes a word of the Man-spider saga Except Mr.P and Its nice to hear about an overly Mutated Parker. Funny even though some people MAY think it's a load of bull. All I have to say is no one told those people to come spam up this thread. Clear enough Doc?


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I think you misread what Man-Spider means to Mr Parker.

He is talking about Tobey Maguire's Spider-Man and how he had organic webbing.

Not the mutant spider Peter turned into in the cartoon.


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Yeah, this thread should be closed down. Theres no conclusion or agreement ever made. Let By-GONES be By-GONES.

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