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Doc Ock
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Rating the villains

Let's grade the Spidey villains into groups from best to worst.

A-List Spider-Man Villains
The creme de la creme, the Jokers/Lex Luthors.

Green Goblin
Doctor Octopus
Venom

Inbetween A and B - Hobgoblin

B-List
Classic villains that would be arch enemies for any other superhero.

The Lizard
The Kingpin
Carnage
Kraven the Hunter
Electro
The Sandman
Mysterio

C-List

Good enough to be used regularly in the comics over the decades, but unlikely to be used in a movie.

The Shocker
The Beetle
The Rhino
Hammerhead
Prof Smythe
Doppelganger
Calypso

D-List
Suckers and losers.

Rocket Racer
Hypno-Hustler
Willo the Wisp
The Grisly
The Spot
The Kangaroo

This also becomes a game of 'who can name the most obscure Spidey villain'. wink

So let's see how do you guys rate the villains???


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lol wow I am the first one to answer, weird well I agree with you mostly, but Lizard would be an A-B like Hobby, and I would say Shocker would be a B, he is pretty cool, or at least I like him.


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Doc Ock
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Ok,so what's Shocker ever done that ranks him as B-list???

I just want to hear reasons as to why people rank the villains.


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well I just thought he was cool enough to be B-list. He really didn't do much though...


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Doc Ock
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I don't agree.He's Electro lite.A thug villain with electric powers no where near as strong as Electro's.

He's a C-lister to me.


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well ok well those are the only things I would change


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hahaha i did a post last time asking what kinda powers did Shocker have...were they electric like Electro's or vibrational or what?

the answer i got was: they are shockwaves.... huh (guess like the ones you get after a bomb explodes, etc)

Most obscure villain: Slasher (some girl who used blades)

A-list in Comics: Kaine, Jackal -- both pretty influential to Spidey's mythos but I don't think they would be good in a Spider-man movie.

B-list: Morlun? He's cryptic..he's virtually unstoppable, but again...I don't see him in a Spidey movie any time soon.


As a matter of fact, I think most of Spidey's villains are not very A-list. They are very colorful creations, but black and white in their depictions.

More obscure villains: Typeface, Walrus, Stegron


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Lol, I love you Ock.

I did this once a few months ago, because I'm in the process of making a few comics of my own, and I have a shitload of villains so I wanted to put them in order of importance and such. I used Spider-Man as the ranking sort of thing like you're doing now, but I broke it down into different categories. I do overall agree with yours though. This is how mine essentially went:

ARCHENEMIES:
Green Goblin, Doc Ock, Venom, Carnage.

SECONDARY ARCH-RIVALS:
Electro, Lizard, Hobgoblin, Mysterio, Kraven...

WORKERS:
Shocker, Rhino, etc.

RARE VILLAINS:
Beetle, Tombstone, Smythe, etc.

BOTTOM OF THE BARREL:
The Spot, Big Wheel, all those people.

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I'd put Morlun on the A-list.
Where would Spidercide go?


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quote: (post)
Originally posted by NoFate007
Lol, I love you Ock.

I did this once a few months ago, because I'm in the process of making a few comics of my own, and I have a shitload of villains so I wanted to put them in order of importance and such.


Oh cool.

What's your comic about???

Btw I didn't see you list our new SM-3 villain Sandman anywhere there wink


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Originally posted by Next Venom_girl
I'd put Morlun on the A-list.


Ok why is Morlun A-List???

Please don't say it's because he ripped out Spider-Man's eye and ate it.You have to do better than that to rank along side timeless classics like Ock and Green Goblin IMO wink

Morlun's had like 2 arcs and he's A-List???

Please people give me reasons why.With the likes of Ock,GG and Venom we don't need reasons.But these one shot or two shot villains.Why would you rank them A-list??


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i think they're only "supposedly" A-list villains. Like...they made a big deal how they were gonna change Spidey history, but like you said Oc, they only came out once or twice...and most people forget about them.

I think Venom is the only semi-new villain (80s) that became truly A-list...meaning he's featured a lot in stories, has a strong fan-base, and affects both Peter and Spidey. He hits him to the core. He has such a strong influence that people want him in the movies and even in the Animated Series, they included him alongside classics. In the videogames too. Everyone after him (Kaine, Morlun, etc) wanted to be the next big thing but never approached his status. He's like Batman's Bane.


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Please don't say it's because he ripped out Spider-Man's eye and ate it.You have to do better than that to rank along side timeless classics like Ock and Green Goblin IMO

Damn, okay then I retract my earlier statement.


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lol yea that was the only thing he did that I thought was sorta cool


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Originally posted by Next Venom_girl
Damn, okay then I retract my earlier statement.


I take it the eye incident was the reason you ranked him an A-lister???

I think A-list villains are villains who have tormented Spider-Man for years,and have had significant impacts on his life in some way or another.

Morlun's recent antics are certainly not something Spider-Man will forget in a hurry.But at the same time he's new.A rookie.If all he's going to do is pop up and rip out his eye and then get bitten and die.

Well I'd make him B-list.And even that's pushing it.

But that's my opinion anyway.


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A-Listers

Green Goblin
Harry Osborn-hits even closer to home than Norman. He's Spidey's best friend!!!
Doc Ock
Venom
Kingpin-got an Ultimate arc before Ock or Venom. You really can't mess.

B-List

Scorpion
Lizard
Hobgoblin--he's up there but doesn't make into the A-List
Mysterio--My favorite villain
Electro
Carnage--not an A-lister. Sorry
Jackal--he's back, right? He'll be a big villain again before long if he's back
Sandman
Vulture
Kraven--another personal favorite

C-List
Rhino
Shocker
Hammerhead
Hydro Man
Tombstone's cool.

And then there's the rest. Chameleon can die. As for Morlun--we'll see how it plays out over a couple more years


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A list:
Venom
Doc Ock
GG

B list:
Carnage
Electro
Mysterio
Hobgoblin
Sandman

C list
Shriek
Cardiac
Vulture
Shocker
Chameleon
Scream
Demogoblin
Morbius
Beetle
Hydro-Man

D list:
Kraven
Hammerhead
Doc Ock 2
The other symbiotes
Boomerang
The Spot
Rhino
Stunner
Carrion
Jackal
Big Wheel
Doppleganger

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A-list
J. Jonah Jameson
norman osborn
doc ock
venom
sandman(since it's mostly pis that spidey even beats him)

B-list
hob goblin
carnage
kraven
lizard
king pin
vulture

C-list
shocker
rhino
electro
scorpion

D-list
Tinkerer
hammer head
The Fabulous Frog-Man
spot


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quote: (post)
Originally posted by Dazzler619
A list:
Venom
Doc Ock
GG

B list:
Carnage
Electro
Mysterio
Hobgoblin
Sandman

C list
Shriek
Cardiac
Vulture
Shocker
Chameleon
Scream
Demogoblin
Morbius
Beetle
Hydro-Man

D list:
Kraven
Hammerhead
Doc Ock 2
The other symbiotes
Boomerang
The Spot
Rhino
Stunner
Carrion
Jackal
Big Wheel
Doppleganger


The Spot isn't worthy to roll in Kraven's spittle. the Hunter needs to be B-List, maybe C-List. Rhino should make C-List too.


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quote: (post)
Originally posted by Lord Magnus
The Spot isn't worthy to roll in Kraven's spittle. the Hunter needs to be B-List, maybe C-List. Rhino should make C-List too.


Well this is my opnion

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