ok, first of all, i wanna start by saying that i been waiting for a very long time for this movie to come out, i been checking a number of websites everyday for updates, from the second J.K. SImmons said he would be interested in making spidey 3, to the moment of the AOL premiere. Anyway, i been very hyped up to know venom is in this movie, because i am a very huge fan of the 90s series, not so much the comics. anyway after viewing the movie one hour ago, i am pretty sad to conclude that it didnt meet my expectations, even though i really wanted it to, really i did.
Things i loved about this movie:
-The bell tower
-The subway battle
-the mansion battle
-The symbiote screaming at Spidey at the construction site
-Bruce as the waiter
Things i hated about this movie:
-Gwen Stacy had very little purpose to this film and didnt have to be in it
-the way she acted when she saw pete and MJ together, the whole shoulder rubbing, i mean common, she shows up randomly at the restraunt to see her lab partner and rub his shoulder in front of his GF and then leave, i mean thats a WTF moment, and i had a lot of those
-The dancing, i mean WTF is up with that, Toby's croch move, WTF, horrible, i closed my eyes and bowed my head down because of how bad that was.
-The bar scene, when the hell did pete learn how to play the piano, and play jazz like that, so stupid, and the way Gwen reacted and left all of a sudden.
-I hated the whole thing with the suit, i mean it gets onto his costume, but then we see his costume as being separate. whats up with that? he puts on the suit and turns evil, takes it off, he is fine. WTF
-I didnt get the part of how Harry made MJ break up with pete, wtf was with that.
-The whole thing with the buttler, i mean what is this BATMAN? randomly he walks into the hideout and tells harry that his dad was bad, wtf...
-Eddie Brock owning a TAXI, WTF
-Venom asking help from sandman, very random
-VENOM HAD NO TONGUE, HATED THE WAY HE LOOKED< BUDDY WAS OK, BUT THE HEAD WAS HORRIBLE,
-THE VOICE WAS NOWHERE NEAR WHAT it shoudl have been, and it didnt say its venom, or didnt refer to US/WE.
-Chessy quotes throughtout the movie "WICKED COOL" and other stupid stuff.
-The british anchorwoman
-HAL FISHMAN, WTF
-Sandman asking forgiveness after he pwned spidey's ass, wtf.
-STAN LEE WAS HORRIBLE IN THIS ONE RANDOM! WTF
-Venom jumping on a stupid bomb and killing itself.
Overall i think this movie didnt meet any of my expectations, i believe that the trilogy curse still exists, and will continue existing, too bad they killed off venom like that.
Re: Things You Liked And You Hated About Spiderman 3
-I thought Gwen's reaction was on point, she wasnt portaryed as bitchy or trying to steal Peter. She reacted exactly how a woman who was played probably wouldve reacted.
-Eddie didnt own a taxi, he probably stoled it to get MJ.
-I love Stan Lee. I dont care what he said, just the fact that the guy that co-created Spider-man had a line in the movie is fine by me.
Venom: ppl keep saying that Venom looked cheesy, ugly that he had no tongue mustve forgotten than in his 1st appearances(as this was his 1st appearance in the movie) he looked cheesy and didnt showed the tongue. Venom has truly changed over the years.
good parts
-sandman transformation,great and moving in fact it was the only emotional part of the movie that really felt emotional,the part where the only reason he is able to reintegrated is for his daughter was great
-harry and peter relationship,reflected greatly the whole goblin saga to the movie
-venom CG first apearence i mean when you can clearly see his face while talking to sandman,i liked the classic look better than the big mouth and tongues one.
-harry and peter fights
-the tower scene where peter slam acidently on the bell and the simbiont scream
-harry dieing for peter
-the waitress ,well she is hot.lol
-bruce campbell cameo
-gwen stacy,she had no role in the movie but was better than everyone else with the exception of franco,church and the aunt may lady in this respectively order.
-jjj trying to buy a camera in the end,although i would have liked better if the scene was shorter faster,it took too much time away from the on going action happening.
-liked that peter finally used his brains to defeat a enemy for the first time.
-brock jumps on the bomb and die! WICKED!thanks raimi!
disliked
-venom!
-mj mario princess sindrome...yet .AGAIN!/
-dark suit "transformation"
-doctor connors role,really they just added him for a opening in 4
-peter giving a sample of his suit to connors instead of spiderman,even if it was spiderman that asked peter to give connors the sample,would make more sense,and would bring to screen the whole pretense parker spiderman frienship
-connors reaction to a FRICKING ALIEN CREATURE! i mean comon,if my student bring me a substance that looks alive,im going to report this to cientific comunity,beside he even said he is a chemiisty not biologist,i mean,what? peter gave him the sample as a SUBSTANCE,not as a living being,so he figured it was alive and that was it? i would call nasa right away,heck i would even call the media and report we were being invaded by aliens creature just to enjoy the mass hysteria to follow .
-i can cope with the suit making peter more full of himself,more outing but dancing like he was in the 70s show (maybe it was a missed internal joke?) was too much for me.the bar scene i can live with but the dance on the street was way over top.
-sandman completely vanish from screen to give way for the black suit jokes and yada yadas,back writing
-sandman and venom meeting so "ocasionaly" and the whole we have a mutual goal,lets be friend,god!who had that idea? wasnt sandman just trying to save his daughter? why would he go on a vendetta against spider with some weird looking fella,perhaps he read the comics and was afraid of venom,oh sorry,mr black goo man,biting him.
-ven- ers....mr black goo disapearing from screen from a long time,to give way for peter harry team up against sandman,bad writing.
-the whole webed scene with mj...comon,please someone take her from there its annoying already,this damsel in distress was problably raimi revenge against all people who complained about this in previous movies,becouse on this one its longer,and meaningless,i KNOW she is trapped, I KNOW she is in danger, stop zooming on her face just to give a excuse to not expend more money rendering more fight scenes.
-jjj jameson pills joke,very force,but it works with the audicence.
-the edition,some scenes just cut into another without a proper closure to the previous scene.
-the fact that peter just decided to put on him costume after seeing what he was done to mj,look at a church and think...."hmm i think ill just brood up there for some minutes,enough time for the suit to bond to me so i can remove it in a dramatic scene"
-brock just turned mr black goo man,not climb up the church tower and beat the crap of poor weakened peter who was as the camera shown,unconscious near the bell.
-the subway scene was short as hell,from the trailers youd auposed it was much longer,since the trailer showed the WHOLE battle.
-was jarvis doing a cameo on this movie?WTF was the buttler scene?
-the whole forgiviness in the end,i mean "i didnt want this",yah....and am i to belive that venom forced you ,oh damn....my bad,mr black goo man forced him into it,i guess that he also didnt want to slam spider with his hammer fist too,oh might his ass got tight when he saw spiderman killing his partner.....hmmmmmmm
-the whole media covarage was lame
-as the publicity advertisiment of the new goblin toy by the kids saying,wicked cool,awesome when harry comes to the rescue.
i second the post starter on
-The bar scene, when the hell did pete learn how to play the piano, and play jazz like that.
-Chessy quotes throughtout the movie "WICKED COOL" and other stupid stuff. *and here i add* the whole peter harry "dialogue?" when they team up.
now answering the thead starter :
-VENOM HAD NO TONGUE, HATED THE WAY HE LOOKED< BUDDY WAS OK, BUT THE HEAD WAS HORRIBLE,
*the tongue was considered to show/give idea of sexual conotation,so they scratched that. (yah i know,sounds stupid,i wonder who was the conservadorist parents they made this interview with)
-THE VOICE WAS NOWHERE NEAR WHAT it shoudl have been, and it didnt say its venom, or didnt refer to US/WE.
*spiderman voice never changed from peter to costume (wich was a huge mistake,imo) so,why should venom's?about the whole "we" thing,unlike the comics in the movie they are one entity,and there wasnt enough screen time to develop brock bonding to the suit,basically the suit is just a parasite in the movie like from the term it derives from simbiosis,the movie took this literally,brock just used the thing to get revenge on parker,they werent a duet.
-Eddie Brock owning a TAXI, WTF
*he problably just stole it,or even killed the driver offscreen.
-and the way Gwen reacted and left all of a sudden.
*any woman would react like that.
Re: Re: Things You Liked And You Hated About Spiderman 3
thats what i always says.........god how i hate the mc farlene era........
mcfarlene turned venom into a monster out of dispise for erik larsen art,and guess what, people loved the new monster venom, go figures......
Re: Things You Liked And You Hated About Spiderman 3
-Could've easily killed a cab driver and taken it
-yeah, that actually was since he wooped spidey by himself
-What was wrong with his head? Think about this seriously, what would he look like with a giant tongue hanging out of his mouth and green saliva dripping off of it? You'd probably hate it, it looked awesome in the comics but not so much in a movie.
-Everyone says it should have been evil monster sounding but where's the logic in Spider-man's voice not changing at all with it and Venom's somehow changing a lot with it.
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Peter's so called 'dark side' was represented horribly. It wasn't dark at all. I was so disappointed. They should have made him EXTREMELY dark. So dark that he's violent towards everyone, aggressive to those who do nothing, struggling so much with mental demons that he fears he may become a killer. I wanted to see dark, not a slap-stick parody of Peter.
He acted like Symbiote Spiderin in the 90s show.
I liked the fact that Venom seemed to be able to read people's mind just like in the books (How else could he know about Sandman's doughter and all...)
I haven't seen it yet but it looks very entertaining. However I would just like to say I am sick of people saying it blew away the competition for having the best opening weekend. You can't compare apples and oranges. spider man 3 was in about 600 more theaters than the first spider man or revenge of the sith and that is why it appears to have made so much more. in reallity it only made about 3.5million more than
star wars. http://www.boxofficemojo.com/alltime/weekends/
Things I hated:
- Kirsten Dunst still plays Mary Jane
- Sandman's story was dropped as soon as Peter got the symbiote
- Peter still keeps MJ around despite having someone like Gwen around
- Gwen having such a small role
- Peter being dark only when he fights
- the scene on the street right before the date with Gwen it was funny but black suit Spider-Man is supposed to be dark not cheesy
Things I liked
- all of the fights especially Harry vs Peter 2, Black Spidey vs. Sandman, and of course the final battle
- Spider-Man whooping Venom by physical force and exploiting his weakness (without using any special weapons)
- Spider-Man with black suit when fighting
- Bryce Dallas Howard, Thomas Haden Church, James Franco's performance, Tobey did well to but he had some very cheesy scenes
- Venom having his classic appearance
- Venom having 20 minutes of screen time
- Venom getting blown up
- the dialogue with Harry at the end of Harry vs. Spider-Man round 2
- Parker smacking MJ
- the music
- J. K. Simmons' scenes
- the scene where Peter flirts with Betty
- the scene where Peter humiliates Brock at the Daily Bugle
The movie is actually ok but I think people (my self included) were expecting too much. I'd watch it again.
Spider-Man 3 had a lot of potential, but it was too big a plot to condense into one movie. Sandman should have stayed out of the movie altogether. The scene at the end was reminiscent of the Stay-Puffed Marshmallow Man in the Ghostbusters franchise. Venom and Harry were enough, and Venom being stronger than Spidey could lead to Spidey teaming up with Harry...that would have been awesome in itself. Also, why would Spidey kiss Gwen Stacey? She had no development in the movie. I wasn't impressed. I miss the good old days where one villain was well developed into a story about PETER, not a story about villains. And I recall the first part of the first Spider-Man where Peter was talking about how he loved MJ since elementary school. Come on--he has her now, in part II he wanted nothing more to be with her, now he has her and he kisses another girl? Pointless add-ins if you ask me.
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Am I the only one who liked the scene where he walked down the street dancing? I thought it was hilarious. I mean is it because he's supposed to be dark? That is kind of dark, he's just broken up with the love of his life and now he's going down the street hitting on random women and goofing off. It's like he could care less.
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