Green Goblin, no contest. At all. Nobody has scarred, beaten, mentally broken, and hurt Peter as much as Norman has. He's killed Gwen Stacey, killed Ben Reilly, "killed" Aunt May, made numerous other Goblins, almost destroyed New York City more times than I can count, corrupted Harry Osborn, crippled Flash Thompson, destroyed the Daily Bugle, and even beaten and carried Peter's unconcious(sp?) body to the underworld, where Spider-Man laid helpless and a broken man. And I haven't even listed one decade of his damage, let alone the fact that he's been kicking about for at least 25-30 years.
Venom's terrifying, Dr. Octopus is dangerous, and Green Goblin II is insane, but nobody has ruined Pete from the inside out quite like Norman.
Actually it has been proven by Spider-Man himself the only villain he is scared of is Venom, GG may have upset him but Spidy has never feared him, Venom scares Spider-Man and thats enough to make him a serious threat.
Actually, that's not true. Whoever said that or wrote that is merely glorifying Venom.
I have an issue where Spider-Man was beaten so badly by GG, that he was terrified of even his own shadow.
Finally, he overcame his fear and won, only to be even more terrified at the fact that Norman reminded him of one key fact: He knew Spider-Man's life.
I remember that when he tried to make him his heir, yet the next time they meet he goes back to being, oh it's goblin, in many different issues Spidy is uncomfortable around Venom, and often tries to run and hide.
In fact, I own 90% of the comics involving both characters in the Spidey mythos, and Spider-Man doesn't hide from Venom. Like, ever. He's cautious, and goes into battle absolutely prepared for anything, and has indeed tried to get away from Venom, but he never went "OMG um soo scurred!"
In a title of Marvel Presents Spider-Man, however, he lost to Green Goblin so horribly that he quit being Spider-Man until he regained his courage to put back on the costume.
Don't play with me, the second fight with Venom he ran away, I like how you tried to boast you have 90% of every Spider-Man comics, like people don't have the same collection or just download them, would you like a medal for all that "hard" work.
The reason I am laying into you so much is because how you just spoke to me, using manners and being civil is often the best method of communication.
I remember making a "Top 15 Spider-Man Villains" list on CBR.
The list was:
15) Mysterio
14) Scorpion
13) Electro
12) Jackal
11) J. Jonah Jameson
10) Kingpin
9) Morlun
8) Carnage
7) The Lizard
6) Hobgoblin
5) Green Goblin II
4) Sandman
3) Dr. Octopus
2) Venom
1) Green Goblin
He didn't "run away". He was trying to stay away from Venom until he knew how to win.
And how was I being anything BUT civil? Heck, in that post, you sound ruder than I ever was.
Nice to see someone finally put Jameson on a list, Kingpin is a daredevil villain not a Spider-Man one so that does not count.
Green Goblin 2 and sandman in those places, not for me, still good list.
However it is you, I asked did you see the pics that was all what did you say: I own 90% comics, as if being abrasive and in a who cares I have the issues sort of way, I was just asking then you getting all snidely.
Edit: on a side note the Kangeroo II lol.
Last edited by Neo Darkhalen on Mar 1st, 2008 at 09:40 PM
Electro and Scorpion have done more damage than Mysterio by far.
He first appeared in Spider-Man comics, has appeared in more Spidey comics than daredevil comics, and Kingpin shot Aunt May.
He absolutely counts.
Dude, Harry made Peter fall on the floor and deny his own existence. And Sandman has almost killed him numerous times, and has even put the world in jeapordy. They completely deserve their places.
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