Mindset
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What the hell was the point of BND?
So the New Avengers know who Spiderman is.
Now it looks like the F4 will know too.
Also, if Pete was so nonchalant about showing his face to the NA, why is he ready to fight one of his closet friends to keep his secret...?
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Apr 2nd, 2009 08:30 AM
SamZED
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The point was to ruin his marriage and to retcon like a billion stories whith lotsa marvel characters learning his identity in the past 45 years. All the event with DD, Doc Strange, FF, Wolverine etc that took place in the last 45 years are no longer canon. I guess that was Joe's general idea...
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Apr 2nd, 2009 10:34 AM
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It's Peter. No matter if Mephisto warps reality to undo his past, the dumb schmuck can't help putting his foot in s**t first chance he gets.
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Apr 2nd, 2009 03:04 PM
Mindset
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by SamZED
The point was to ruin his marriage and to retcon like a billion stories whith lotsa marvel characters learning his identity in the past 45 years. All the event with DD, Doc Strange, FF, Wolverine etc that took place in the last 45 years are no longer canon. I guess that was Joe's general idea...
No, apparently all his adventures with the other heroes still happened.
In one the the ASM he mentions his fight with Morlun.
And in this ASM he still had the adventure with F4, but their memory of his face was gone.
So pretty much everything is canon except his marriage to MJ, Harry dying, and him getting more powers from The Other, and EVERYONE knowing who he is, but I'm fairly sure more heroes know his identity know than before.
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Apr 2nd, 2009 05:43 PM
Lek Kuen
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by Mindset
So pretty much everything is canon except his marriage to MJ, Harry dying, and him getting more powers from The Other.
no the other powers are appearntly canon also. Joe quesada said he gained them but lost them. And they are supposed to explain how he lost them at a later issue
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Apr 2nd, 2009 05:46 PM
Mindset
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Well, Quesada is an idiot.
At least the last couple ASM have been enjoyable, imo.
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Apr 2nd, 2009 05:54 PM
Lek Kuen
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yea i hate him
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Apr 2nd, 2009 06:00 PM
BruceSkywalker
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the point was also to spring new life into the Spiderman mythos and to make $$$$$$
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Apr 2nd, 2009 06:51 PM
Lek Kuen
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by BruceSkywalker
the point was also to spring new life into the Spiderman mythos
his stories were more interesting before this though
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Apr 2nd, 2009 07:07 PM
BruceSkywalker
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by jalek moye
his stories were more interesting before this though
yes they were.. the stories were a lot better and so was the artwork
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Apr 2nd, 2009 07:27 PM
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by Mindset
Well, Quesada is an idiot.
QFT.
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Apr 2nd, 2009 07:34 PM
Lek Kuen
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i hope he doesn't have any more revelations about a characters mythos
and I've always wondered what exactly is his problem with spidey beeing married
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Apr 2nd, 2009 07:58 PM
StiltmanFTW
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by jalek moye
and I've always wondered what exactly is his problem with spidey beeing married
He doesn't like women.
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Apr 2nd, 2009 08:07 PM
SamZED
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Ok ive just read some info on ASM 591 it says that that story is gonna be HUGE and somehow effect the whole MU. After reading asm 590 im confused. It seems that Peter actually REMEMBERS that Mephisto wiped everyone's memory and made them forget who Spider-man is.
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Apr 2nd, 2009 09:52 PM
Lek Kuen
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by SamZED
Ok ive just read some info on ASM 591 it says that that story is gonna be HUGE and somehow effect the whole MU. After reading asm 590 im confused. It seems that Peter actually REMEMBERS that Mephisto wiped everyone's memory and made them forget who Spider-man is.
ok i'm gonna go pick that up just to see whats going on
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Apr 2nd, 2009 09:55 PM
Mindset
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by SamZED
Ok ive just read some info on ASM 591 it says that that story is gonna be HUGE and somehow effect the whole MU. After reading asm 590 im confused. It seems that Peter actually REMEMBERS that Mephisto wiped everyone's memory and made them forget who Spider-man is.
Yea, I made this after I read 590.
Looks like Johnny was aware that he used to know Peter as well, or he had an inclination that he did.
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Apr 2nd, 2009 11:00 PM
StiltmanFTW
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quote: (post ) Originally posted by SamZED
Ok ive just read some info on ASM 591 it says that that story is gonna be HUGE and somehow effect the whole MU. After reading asm 590 im confused. It seems that Peter actually REMEMBERS that Mephisto wiped everyone's memory and made them forget who Spider-man is.
What?? So why he didn't react when Deadpool accussed him of it?
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Apr 2nd, 2009 11:04 PM
SamZED
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I guess we'll have to wait till asm 591 comes out to find out for sure. But seriously, when Johnny strted talking about how weird it is that he doesn't know who Pete is 'cause it seemed to him as if he used to know but forgot I wanted to get into that comicbook and give him a giant hug 'cause that's the first hint since the whole bnd crap that Pete's past wasn't completly wiped out, its just the present's been changed.
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Apr 3rd, 2009 08:18 AM
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Finally! It seems clear now that Peter is aware of his deal with Mephisto, or at least knows of it to some extent.
It's about time we learned some of the finer details about the deal with the devil.
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Apr 8th, 2009 09:51 PM
Arahan
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After a long time I read ASM. Issue 590.
Well it was how could I put it in the right words....
CRAP
Well first he shows his face in New Avengers
now in ASM 590. And this *oh cant remember* thing
is just ridicilous.
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