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Mindset
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What the hell was the point of BND?

So the New Avengers know who Spiderman is.

Now it looks like the F4 will know too.

Also, if Pete was so nonchalant about showing his face to the NA, why is he ready to fight one of his closet friends to keep his secret...?


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The point was to ruin his marriage and to retcon like a billion stories whith lotsa marvel characters learning his identity in the past 45 years. All the event with DD, Doc Strange, FF, Wolverine etc that took place in the last 45 years are no longer canon. I guess that was Joe's general idea...


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It's Peter. No matter if Mephisto warps reality to undo his past, the dumb schmuck can't help putting his foot in s**t first chance he gets. roll eyes (sarcastic)


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Originally posted by SamZED
The point was to ruin his marriage and to retcon like a billion stories whith lotsa marvel characters learning his identity in the past 45 years. All the event with DD, Doc Strange, FF, Wolverine etc that took place in the last 45 years are no longer canon. I guess that was Joe's general idea...
No, apparently all his adventures with the other heroes still happened.

In one the the ASM he mentions his fight with Morlun.

And in this ASM he still had the adventure with F4, but their memory of his face was gone.

So pretty much everything is canon except his marriage to MJ, Harry dying, and him getting more powers from The Other, and EVERYONE knowing who he is, but I'm fairly sure more heroes know his identity know than before.


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Originally posted by Mindset

So pretty much everything is canon except his marriage to MJ, Harry dying, and him getting more powers from The Other.


no the other powers are appearntly canon also. Joe quesada said he gained them but lost them. And they are supposed to explain how he lost them at a later issue


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Well, Quesada is an idiot.

At least the last couple ASM have been enjoyable, imo.


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yea i hate him


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the point was also to spring new life into the Spiderman mythos and to make $$$$$$


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the point was also to spring new life into the Spiderman mythos

his stories were more interesting before this though


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his stories were more interesting before this though


yes they were.. the stories were a lot better and so was the artwork


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Originally posted by Mindset
Well, Quesada is an idiot.


QFT.


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i hope he doesn't have any more revelations about a characters mythos

and I've always wondered what exactly is his problem with spidey beeing married


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and I've always wondered what exactly is his problem with spidey beeing married


He doesn't like women.


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Ok ive just read some info on ASM 591 it says that that story is gonna be HUGE and somehow effect the whole MU. After reading asm 590 im confused. It seems that Peter actually REMEMBERS that Mephisto wiped everyone's memory and made them forget who Spider-man is.


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Ok ive just read some info on ASM 591 it says that that story is gonna be HUGE and somehow effect the whole MU. After reading asm 590 im confused. It seems that Peter actually REMEMBERS that Mephisto wiped everyone's memory and made them forget who Spider-man is.

ok i'm gonna go pick that up just to see whats going on


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Ok ive just read some info on ASM 591 it says that that story is gonna be HUGE and somehow effect the whole MU. After reading asm 590 im confused. It seems that Peter actually REMEMBERS that Mephisto wiped everyone's memory and made them forget who Spider-man is.
Yea, I made this after I read 590.


Looks like Johnny was aware that he used to know Peter as well, or he had an inclination that he did.


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Ok ive just read some info on ASM 591 it says that that story is gonna be HUGE and somehow effect the whole MU. After reading asm 590 im confused. It seems that Peter actually REMEMBERS that Mephisto wiped everyone's memory and made them forget who Spider-man is.


What?? So why he didn't react when Deadpool accussed him of it? confused


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I guess we'll have to wait till asm 591 comes out to find out for sure. But seriously, when Johnny strted talking about how weird it is that he doesn't know who Pete is 'cause it seemed to him as if he used to know but forgot I wanted to get into that comicbook and give him a giant hug 'cause that's the first hint since the whole bnd crap that Pete's past wasn't completly wiped out, its just the present's been changed.


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Finally! It seems clear now that Peter is aware of his deal with Mephisto, or at least knows of it to some extent.

It's about time we learned some of the finer details about the deal with the devil.


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After a long time I read ASM. Issue 590.
Well it was how could I put it in the right words....

CRAP

Well first he shows his face in New Avengers
now in ASM 590. And this *oh cant remember* thing
is just ridicilous.


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