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Angry Doomsday killed Superman...Should not have happened

Why did this happen, there was no Big K involved, no nothing it was just a strength match. Superman is impervious to physical attacks if No K involved, or at least should be cause thats what his fater and the comics said.

Also in the comic, Supe never went super speed, he could have just doged all of Doomsdays attacks and he would have never gotten him. Then as Supe likes to do is throw stuff into the Sun, he could have just grabbed doomsday and done just that, but he did not. He could have also just thrown him into outerspace, and let him come back down and burn up in the atmosphere. He did none of those

What were doomsdays powers? Just Strength and hardness. Nothing Else, matched with supes....super strength, super speed, heat vison, freeze breath, super breath, invinsibility, aurora power shell from the yellow sun, smartest man on the earth,x-ray vision.

This makes no sense to me.

My question is why he died, and why the comic writers let this happend, and the only reason I can see why he died was that they wanted him to, and with a little research ....THEY DID!!

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They did it to sell comics duhhhhhh!!!!!!!!! That issue is still one of the best selling issues of Superman and comics in general. And Superman did try flying Doomsday away from the earth and used his heat vision on him multiple times. Doomsday was also Kryptonian so he possesed the same strength Superman did. He also can keep coming back to life invunerable to the means that killed him before. Superman is NOT the smartest man on earth and Doomsday had superspeed as well.


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Yeh Doomsday turned out to be some kind of doomsday weapon (hence the name) and was more than a match for Superman. It was done to sell comics, yes, but it was also an event that rarely happens in modern culture these days.

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Well if he did take him to outer space how did he not die? Doomsday could not fly. Supe killed him so he obviously can not keep comming back to life.

If he is from Kypton how did he all the sudden just appear? Years later? Why in the comic did he not have the same powers as supe?

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I was told by a friend, who has followed the storylines since the Death of Superman and the Reign of the Supermen, that Doomsday somehow escaped the destruction of Krytpon and ended up on earth.
But I do't think he was meant to fight Superman at all, that was not what he was programmed for. Apparently since then, he has indeed survive as he does not need to breathe, and has had a rematch or two with the revived Man of Steel.
In fact, according to my friend, Doomsday is gradually gaining intelligence, and now recognises his arch foe.
But I cant confirm or deny any of this, as this is second hand information. wink

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WEll doomsday is dead, superman killed him, so i dont see how he is gaining intelligence. And I have not seens any comics of this sort to prove this.

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My friend could give you more accurate details, but let me ask you a question: Have you been following the different storylines (ie Kingdom Come, Zero hour) since Reign of the Supermen? If so, then you know more than I do. If not, then that would explain why you have not heard about it. smile

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Doomsday is still living. in Reign of the Supermen after the cyborg Superman throws Doomsday into space Doomsday opens his eyes and laughs. Also in Joker's Last Laugh, President Luthor helps the Joker Jokerize Doomsday. But now Doomsday has some feeling and knows what pain is and is more afraid than he was when he fought Superman. After Doomsday went on a rampage in Washington D.C. Superman defeated him and told Luthor not to let him out agian. Yeah. Doomsday is still around.

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Read and be enlightened.
History:
Doomsday was a creature born of genetic manipulation a long time ago. A scientist named Bertron had set up a laboratory on a distant and deadly world. There he and his team performed experiments on a living embryo. They ejected a living embryo into the harsh atmosphere, where it died instantly. The scientists then retrieved the embryo and regrew it in a regeneration pod, then repeated the process.

The experiment lasted for years. After several iterations, the creature developed the ability to survive in the planet's harsh atmosphere, only to be devoured by the vicious aliens which inhabited the world. Again and again Bertron and his team retrieved the remains of their project, which Bertron referred to as The Ultimate, and again and again The Ultimate was reborn and reinsterted into the atmosphere. And with each death and rebirth, The Ultimate retained the knowledge of its previous lives and learned from them.

Finally, after many many years of deaths and rebirths, The Ultimate became all that its creator envisioned. The Ultimate cleansed the entire planet of hostile life, and then came after Bertron. The Ultimate had retained all knowledge of its previous versions, including the knowledge and the face of the one person who continued to torment it.

The Ultimate fled from that hostile and harsh world by boarding one of the frequent supply ships which had enabled Bertron's experiment to continue for so long. From there he went on a world-by-world rampage, until he was finally killed on the peaceful planet Colu. The Coluans, unaware of The Ultimate's regenerative powers, buried it as they would one of their own--wrapped in green cloth and chained to a block of stone. The Coluans sent the stone into space, where it wandered for who knows how long a time before crash landing on Earth many years ago.

It began in a field several hundred miles outside of Metropolis, on a warm sunny afternoon. A low rumbling could be heard, growing louder and louder. Finally the source of this noise was revealed: a large, hulking behemoth, wrapped in green fabric and cables. This huge monster did not speak but instead began a murderous and seemingly random rampage.

The Justice League were the first to go up against this monster, who was quickly able to beat them all senseless. Superman arrived and found himself up against a being of such strength and mindless rage as he had never encountered before. This was Doomsday, and Superman's battle with him would prove to be his most difficult.

The monster Doomsday made his way towards the city of Metropolis, cutting a swath of destruction in his wake. Superman followed, and there, on the streets of the City of Tomorrow, right in front of the Daily Planet, the two fought a pitched battle. Onlookers were amazed and frightened to see the Man of Steel hurt, bruised, bleeding, and seemingly unable to subdue Doomsday. Windows shattered with the force of their blows, and the streets and buildings were torn to rubble. Then, finally, horribly, it happened. Although the Man of Steel was able to finally subdue and destroy the beast, the toll on his own body was too much. As the monster Doomsday fell to the ground, lifeless, so too did Superman.

The death of Superman was felt by all, but there was one individual who took it more personally even than the Man of Steel's closest friends. Lex Luthor had sworn that he would be the one who would kill Superman, and the monster Doomsday had beat him to the punch.

Doomsday's body was taken to Cadmus Laboratories for study, but one of the five Supermen who arrived in the wake of the true Superman's death arrived and removed the carcass into outer space. There the pretender Superman strapped the dead Doomsday to an asteroid and threw it deep into space. It floated there, lost among the stars, for a considerable time before a passing space freighter took note of the asteroid's mineral content. The freighter pulled the asteroid into her loading dock before realizing what was attached to it. The crew rushed to jettison the monster, but it was too late. Horribly, inexplicably, Doomsday came to life and slaughtered the ship's crew.

The ship, as it turns out, was en route to Apokolips, homeworld of the galactic despot Darkseid. The ship landed on autopilot and Doomsday emerged and began laying waste to the inhabitants of this new world. Even the great Darkseid himself proved vulnerable to the rampaging terror of Doomsday, his dread Omega Beams having no effect.

Meanwhile, back on Earth, the true Superman had returned from the dead. He learned of Doomsday's return and presence on Apokolips. Enlisting the aid of Waverider of the Linear Men, Superman travelled to Darkseid's homeworld to again do battle with Doomsday.

This unstoppable monster, who not only returned to life after each supposed killing but evolved past it, preventing the same method from proving lethal twice was the being Superman was travelling to face a second time.

On Apokolips, Superman and Waverider encountered Doomsday again, and also the traitorous Cyborg. Superman dealt with the Cyborg, with Darkseid's assistance. Waverider, curious to know the monster's true motivation, peered into Doomsday's mind and saw with horror that though the beast looked at Superman, the being it saw was Bertron! Waverider and Superman realized that the world Bertron had chosen to carry out his experiments was Krypton, and that it was Bertron's influence that sparked the Kryptonians' interest in genetic manipulation.

The battle on Apokolips was fierce. Even with the aid of a Mother Box, a living computer given him by Orion, Superman found himself unable to defeat Doomsday a second time. Finally, in desperation, Superman used one of Waverider's time/space travel devices to transport Doomsday to the End of Time, where the natural forces of entropy would quickly and finally defeat the monster.

Or so it was thought.

Doomsday surfaced yet a third time to menace the Man of Steel, and this time the rampaging monster was guided by an intelligence as sinister as it was vast. Superman learned to his horror that the monster Doomsday was inhabited by the consciousness of his foe Vril Dox, also known as Braniac.

This third encounter happened as Superman was trying to do a favor for his old friend and childhood sweetheart, Lana Lang, now married to Pete Ross. Lana's baby had been born prematurely, and needed to be taken to a major city hospital if he had any hope of survival. Lana persuaded Superman to make the trip, but along the way he was attacked by the newly intelligent Doomsday. Doomsday/Brainiac stole the young child, intending to use it as a new vessel to house Braniac's consciousness.

This time Superman knew what to do. Enlisting the aid of the JLA, Superman forced Doomsday/Brainiac into a teleportation tube, one of the many which the JLA used to travel back and forth from their headquarters on the moon. Then, before the monster could re-orient himself, Superman activated a perpetual loop between several of the transporter tubes. The tubes' frequencies were set to different levels, so that Doomsday would never fully materialize in any one of them long enough to escape or be freed.

This was the fate Superman designed for both Doomsday and Braniac: an eternity of perpetual motion, never resting in one transporter tube for very long, never completely there at any time. Unfortunately, Braniac was able to save his own consciousness at the last second, downloading himself into a new form, Braniac 2.5. cool


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Wow thats alot of info eek!


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Wow I am enlightened. Thanks for the massive article.

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He died for one reason: to sell comics. First of all, they had the five part series about Doomsday. Then they brought both he and Supes back... Blahblahblah!!!! Also, I think it was probably to show the readers that Supes is not completely invincable. And kryptonite is no longer his only threat. See??? That's my 10$$(The amount I paid for all the Superman vs Doomsday comics I own wink)


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have any of you seen the cartoon network version were the super heroes of a nother
dimension arrives to the justice leage dimension and try to take over there prep.

well my point is that in this episode, the superman from the other dimension beats Doomsday just by frying his brains with his lasser.


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after what david d said: lex luthor was able to get DD to help superman fight, parrelax, DD got disintegrated in the fight, but later remerged in a tomb of lex's DD was then jokerized and began an onslaught towards the whight house to kill the pres (I don't remember if it was luthor or not) However, DD became a sentient being and could now speak and logically think, he was afraid of death and hence afreaid of supes. (THIS FOR ALL INTENTS AND PURPOSES IS NEARLY A DIFFERENT CREATRUE THAN DD ALLTOGETHER AND SHOULD BE REFFERED TO AS DOOMSDAY REX). after superman beat DD down he did tell luthor not to let him out again,,,,,,,but of coarse luthor did what was in his best interests and bartered DD's body to Darkseid. During the massive assault from earth's heroes in apocolypse now, DDrex came forth to fight some of them and eventually was devolved into a hlpless baby form, i can't remember if he got zapped all the way back to primordial ooz but I guess I'll have to read the comic again, then after that fight, Darkseid constructed an entire army of DD's for he JLA to fight once again. The DD army is still in the process of construction.


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Doomsday was in a JLU episode already?


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not unlimited in justice league hes gonna be in unlimited i saw it on a comercial and yes superman dying was great it gave birth to my FAVE SUPERMAN THE ERADICATOR. hes totally bad ass the visor and the suit is awesome i wish i had that suit its cool.


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yeah supes "labotimized" him with heat vision, (he was already sentient) what a load of crap.


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^^^^^what he saud. yeah it was crap doomsday was done poorly in that


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