Well in the Graphic Novel called Kingdom Come. Shazam was much more powerful especially as Shazam power is magic orientated. And Superman has a major weakness to it.
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yeah but didn't actually make him bleed. Also he managed to stop superman mid flight
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"One ought never to turn one's back on a threatened danger and try to run away from it. If you do that, you will double the danger. But if you meet it promptly and without flinching, you will reduce the danger by half.-----Sir Winston Churchill
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The bottom line is in all out fight, KC Superman would kill Captain Marvel eventually. KC Superman was physically superior to Marvel. Marvel's only leg up was the fact that his powers were magic based. He even got killed from a metahuman hardened warhead. Superman was in the same blast and emerged untouched. The current Captain Marvel though, can beat the current Superman with supreme effort.
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How was KC Superman "physically superior?" Are they not considered to be nigh equals in terms of physical strength? Here is something to consider (and this was PC):
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But he still was no match for Superman in bloodlust mode. Superman was significantly stronger than he currently is in KC. Nothing indicated to me that CM's strength had increased.
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I have no clue what "bloodlust mode" is (was Superman in "bloodlust mode" in KC, since this is what you are referencing?). I do know that Captain Marvel was conceptualized to be Superman's physical equal, and then some (such that DC eventually sued Fawcett for copyright infringement).
What was proven in their standoff save that Superman can keep his hand over CM's mouth if CM stands perfectly still? CM's lightning had him on his knees bleeding out of every visible orifice; Superman took off to overtake the nuke and CM overtook him and rather easily tossed him aside.
Actually, in Kingdom Come, Captain Marvel Grabbed the warhead and said shazam 3 times, without moving out of the way. In the Billy-Captain Marvel-Billy scenario, he would have been human when the warhead exploded.
Perhaps he needs to think these things thru a bit more....
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