Does anyone eles think Superman's origin is annoying?
I don't mind that he comes from another planet and everything but its the fact that he is so freaking powerful yet its his natural powers, now if he was a god it wouldnt be so bad or he got his powers due to some accident but the fact is he's just an alien, and even though on his home planet he has no powers I just find it weird how if krypton hadn't gone boom then if kryptonians emigrated to earth (lets say they wanted a better tan) then there would be a race of gods.
In the beginning, I don't believe Supes had a real origin at all. His powers were just there without any real explanation until writers came up with the Sun giving him his powers.
I'm curious, though, was Krypton near a red sun or something that kept the residents from becoming a race of supermen and women?
thread starter shut up whining, his story origin is one of the best and most interesting, as it traverses space, and his growing up on earth as a child, then teenager is intersting struggling with life being bullied, which everyone can relate too, and not being able to do anything even with his abilities... and a lot of u americans watch a show called smallville which uses the core parts of his origin... so again shut up as he has a great origin and his powers is what makes him superman! not kinda-superman or supermanish alrite!? lol
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Secondly its not that that I find stupid its the fact that his powers are natural and that if his race was alive and moved to earth they would essentialy be an unstoppable force. Next time read what I said before you start having a go at me...Please note I also didn't complain about his powers, I was complaining on the fact of why he has them.
I don't quite understand what your exactly trying to say...you don't like Superman's powers because they're natural??
The fact that Superman just has his powers naturally, from birth, with no cliche "accident" from which he got his powers, the fact that Superman just has his powers, and are a part of who he is is what makes him so dynamic and special. To use a quote from Kill Bill 2:
An essential characteristic of the superhero mythology is, there's the superhero, and there's the alter ego. Batman is actually Bruce Wayne, SpiderMan is actually Peter Parker. When he wakes up in the morning, he's Peter Parker. He has to put on a costume to become SpiderMan. And it is in that characteristic that Superman stands alone. Superman did not become Superman, Superman was born Superman. When Superman wakes up in the morning, he's Superman. His alter ego is Clark Kent. His outfit with the big red "S", that's the blanket he was wrapped in as a baby when the Kents found him. Those are his clothes. What Kent wears, the glasses, the business suit, that's the costume. That's the costume Superman wears to blend in with us. Clark Kent is how Superman views us. And what are the characteristics of Clark Kent? He's weak, he's unsure of himself... he's a coward. Clark Kent is Superman's critique on the whole human race.
In a sense yes, I have no problem with supermans powers or that they a fueled from the sun, but the fact that any Kryptonian could go under a yellow sun could become so powerful they could conqure almost any planet and give lesser gods a good tussel, I like how he grew up with them and everything, but I'd have liked it if he was weaker seeing as the powers are natural, I know he dosen't move planets now but the fact that he just has these powers and can move a planet just bugs me. If he was a lesser god or something sent to Earth wouldn't be so bad because you expect Gods to be that powerful, but not just an average race from the universewho could probbaly conqure it if they wanted to.
well the kryptonians were very powerful, had intelligence eons ahead of us, they also knew visiting earth would affect their physiology, it was their blind ignorance of thinking they were invicible was what killed them when Jor-El warned them of their sun going supernova.
I think the idea of superman was to help curb humans from having the same fate and cure crime on earth... of course!
It's more than this. Superman's origin mirrors that of the archetypal hero found in many cultures throughout history. An explanation of this archetypal myth can be found in Joseph Campbell's "Hero With A Thousand Faces." This myth has influenced Seigel and Schuster as well as George Lucas in creating his Star Wars mythology.
That aside, the 2 things that bother me about Superman's origin are: 1) that Kryptonians and Earthlings are so damn similar as to be visually indistinguishable from one another; and 2) if they are so damn similar, how is that Kryptonians react so very, very differently to the radiation from a yellow sun (which, in itself, is strange, considering that solar radiation is solar radiation, regardless of star color: the color of a star varies with its temperature, not cuz it has a different kind of radiation).
In another thread, some months back, I offered this explanation as a means of reconciling some of the above: both Kryptonians and Earthlings initially hail from a common mother race of humanoids (kinda like Star Trek's idea of the Preservers). Neither race is indigenous to their worlds; they are the result of intervention from this much-older, starfaring mother race, Kryptonians being an "upgrade" or more advanced version of the basic humanoid-DNA matrix, which is why they react differently to radiation from a yellow star.
In any event, Jor-El--being the eminent scientist that he was--was aware of this common heritage, which is why he choose Earth as the place to send his son. (Nothing of this apparently long-gone mother race is mentioned in Kryptonian mythology because Kryptonians--being generally such a proud, indeed even arrogant people, as evidenced by refusing to believe their world was gonna go boom--regarded such discussion as taboo).
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Last edited by Mindship on Jun 25th, 2006 at 04:44 PM
something ive always been curious about, kryptonian from red sun + yellow sun = superman, human from yellow sun + red sun =? if a human was to have been sent to krypton instead of a kryponian to earth would we be strong, or do we still suck, like almost every comic portrayal of us says.
Almost all comic book aliens look almost identical to humans anyway though. Sometimes they have purple skin or a third eye in the middle of their foreheads or whatever, but for the most part they aren't really that different from humans. Superman isn't that unique in that characteristic.
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sorry, but you are quite wrong. superman always had an origin. the details were VERY vague originally. at first there was no jor-el, ma or pa kent. the first story simply stated that he was sent to earth from an exploding planet. found by a couple who dropped him off at a orphanage. yes, superman originally grew up in an orphanage. as time passed the story of him being rasied in an orphanage raised questions about how come no one knew he had powers, so superman's origin was tweaked to what most know today.
now about supermans powers. originally all kryptonians had superpowers. its was changed shortly to state that our lighter gravity is what enabled superman to have his powers vice krypton's heavier gravity. like most supernerds, fans wanted a more indepth explanation to superman's powers and thats when the yellow sun story came into play.
I've found a hidden message to fans people viewers whatever...and that was some sort of comparison and also a dare...not from Superman but from the makers. I find nothing wrong with all he can do when necessary but certainly were a few intentional expressions. The movie? Perfect.
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