joe casey writer for dc and mervel say superman is unbetable
here's the interview from alvaro's comic boards
Part III: Fanboy Bonanza
RC: OK, like you said, depending on whom you are writing at the moment, either Superman or Mr. Majestic is more powerful than the other. What if you wrote BOTH in a fight—who wins, who's stronger?
JOE CASEY: If I were to write a Superman/Mr. Majestic story where they meet, I certainly wouldn't have them fight. How many times can we endure *that* kind of superhero misunderstanding?!
RC: Could your Superman re-arrange his own Solar System, and tear a star apart, as Majestic did?
JOE CASEY: Absolutely. Where do you think Mr. Majestic got the idea in the first place...?
RC: Are Superman's powers more related to mental state than solar energy absorption?
Joe Casey: I'd say both.
RC: What was your guiding philosophy for working with Superman as a character of The Adventures of Superman?
JOE CASEY: I've always seen Superman as this completely over-the-top, fantastic character who has *no* limits whatsoever. He's an icon, an idea, a concept... and I didn't want to spend time adhering to Handbook-style stats when it came to his abilities.
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Pardon? Superman has no limits whatsoever? Yeah, right. And he’s "millions of times stronger than Thor," too. I learned my lesson the last time: Pros can be just like fans … in love with their favorite characters and prone to demonstrating that love by speaking in poetic, larger-than-life terms about the objects of their affection. It’s happy, harmless hyperbole—there’s nothing odious about it, it’s endearing, actually. But it’s not to be taken literally, right? I’m mean, sure, Casey did tell me that, when it comes to Superman, "Let's just say Superman gets one helluva power upgrade when *I'm* writing his adventures," but there’s still gotta be a limit, yeah?
I mean, come on … with no limits, Superman would be unbeatable, but that can’t be what Casey meant, can it? I mean, even Casey’s most powerful incarnation of Superman—the one who went mentally AWOL in ADVENTURES 594 and then tore through an army of previously-unbeatable foes "with little resistance"—even that Superman has his limits, right?
So, I started thinking up names—names of characters who, according to this guy or that gal or the hermie over there, could certainly give even that Superman a defeat (even if I, personally, didn’t think so). And then I asked Casey point blank:
"Who can beat Superman when he goes into that unconscious ‘Probe-busting mode’ as he did in ADVENTURES 594?"
And then I threw out the names, and assumed he’d think I was just being silly:
RC: Juggernaut? Doomsday? Galactus? No one short of Imperiex himself?
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And then he laid down the law, simple as that.
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JOE CASEY: At that point, Superman is unbeatable. Had he not snapped out of it when Doomsday got fried, he might’ve been able to stop Imperiex right then and there.
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Take note: I was smiling the whole time I read this. I still am. Rock on, Joe Casey! How can anyone not love a guy who’s this honest and this direct (and who, unbeknownst to me at the time, gives even more props to Superman’s powers than I do)?
Back to business …
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RC: Did you basically sneak the pre-Crisis Superman's power levels into your Superman?
JOE CASEY: I never looked at Superman in that way. Whether or not it was pre- or post-Crisis just didn't enter my mind. Superman is simply the ultimate superhero and, under the right circumstances, I just think he can do anything. In my humble opinion, that's the most fun way to write his adventures.
You need to read "It's A Bird" to understand where he's coming from, he has no interest in battles as you see it in a practical reality, he's expressing something else.
Hey, Im Joe Casey, and im a writer for Superman. Superman is a god. He would take out anyone. As a matter of fact, Superman would take out the entire DC, Marvel, DBZ/DBGT characters at the same time. NO wait, he would do it with both arms strapped behind his back and with 100tons of kryptonite harnessed around his body. He would be facing Gogeta, Living Tribunal, GAlactus, Lord of NIghtmares, Thanos, Akira, Tenchi, Kid Buu, all the Celestials and he would eat them alive. First of all, before he started he would drink two kegs of kryptonite liquid for the hell of it. Then with is arms tied behind his back, he would simply just use his left big toe and take out ALL of them. Then he would take on GOD, whip the floor with him, and destroy Jesus and the Holy Spirit, and become the ultimate GOD of EVERYTHING. Casey....you're a idiot, and just a writer on Supermans Johnson. I guess that's how it is, when you are writing a character. I love these forums, they always give me a good laugh.
"never listen to sarcasm, they are pitiful fools explaining their own problems through the topic at hand." A brilliant saying I read in this words of wisdom book, and it applies to you godofall1 quite well
No problems here. lol But anybody thinking Superman is limitless and powers know no bounds, and is unstoppable has some serious problems. Anybody that thinks Superman is the ultimate hero has problems as well though.
Yeah, well Pre-Crisis Superman eventually fell below 100,000 a month in circulation, people were getting bored with his whole unbeatable, I-can-do-anything aura. Hence the Crisis, and the reboot.
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I don't know. But 20 years ago, when X-Men was selling over 500,000 a month, DC brought in John Byrne for the reboot and depowering, and sales nearly doubled to near 200,000 a month.
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Thanagar is now far behind me...
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We certainly pay a lot now, for high-quality paper and art.
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Thanagar is now far behind me...
John Stewart and the Justice League are my new family...
Let all evil beware my mace - HAWKGIRL SMASH!
THis is why I don't like superman...although the movie was the best movie I've seen since Rots. But I believe that Batman is more heroic...hance, I like batman more.
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