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About adamantium

Does adamantium have any affect on superman? Can superman bend adamantium easily as he bend steel easily? Is wolverine any threat to superman?

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Whether Superman can bend adamantium is debateable. Some would say maybe, some would say no. Until the day that he bends something that's as durable, we won't have an answer.

And no, Wolverine is NOT a threat to Superman. He doesn't have the strength to cut through him, let alone scratch him.


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Whether Superman can bend adamantium is debateable. Some would say maybe, some would say no. Until the day that he bends something that's as durable, we won't have an answer.

And no, Wolverine is NOT a threat to Superman. He doesn't have the strength to cut through him, let alone scratch him.


Superman has been cut by the claws of Equus, who's a human cyborg. Prior to that, I wasn't sure it was possible, but I now think Logan could cut him. But, the enhanced super-strength of Equus may have made it possible.


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But wolverine does have enhance strength to back him up don't he?

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I'd assume that Adamantium could cut Superman, but that he's also strong enough to break it if he had the focus.

That's fair. Now I don't want to hear any fan boys complaining on either side lol. No "but Wolverine could heal his adamantium back to full form, right?" and no "but Wolverine would need to bathe his claws in red sun rays and put no suntan lotion on them" lol.

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Wolverine is not strong enough to seriously drive his claws through superman. It's like giving a knife to 3 year old.

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Wolverine is not strong enough to seriously drive his claws through superman. It's like giving a knife to 3 year old.


No, it's like dropping a knife onto a reinforced steel door....Not enough force to pierce it.


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yea a 3 year old could stab you if they just ran into your leg with it... bad example really lol

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Superman has been cut by the claws of Equus, who's a human cyborg. Prior to that, I wasn't sure it was possible, but I now think Logan could cut him. But, the enhanced super-strength of Equus may have made it possible.


I personally thought that was a serious load of bull, because Superman's taken far worse. But, since it happened, I guess you can say his strength helped him there.


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Superman can probably bend and break both primary and secondary adamantium, along with carbonadium. He most likely cannot even make a dent in captain america's shield though.


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well if he can bend and/or break both types of adamantium he'd punch a huge dent in america's shield... why contradict your first arguement?

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well if he can bend and/or break both types of adamantium he'd punch a huge dent in america's shield... why contradict your first arguement?


Because Cap's shield also contains vibranium, which absorbs vibration. That's why he can take so many hits on it, and not be knocked off his feet. It's a process that has never been successfully duplicated, what they did with his shield.


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vibrations... okay fair enough, but with a force like supermans punch its not really vibrations the sheild would take it would be the full force, the vibrations will happen after the punch... so it should still get f*cked up, excuse my french

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The force of his punch causes vibrations that breaks up molecules, and objects crumbles - ie. when he punches through a regular wall, for example.
He punches Cap's shield, it's not just the incredible hardness of the adamantium molecules. The vibranium molecules absorb the force of impacts, and dispearse it. Only an enraged King Thor, wielding the Odinforce, put a dent into the shield with mjolnir ( and that was a shock.) Magic played a part there, though.


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Does adamantium have any affect on superman? Can superman bend adamantium easily as he bend steel easily? Is wolverine any threat to superman?


Well you just have to take it at face value that adamantium is 'unbreakable', so no he can't break it. Wolverine realistically wouldn't be strong enough to drive his claws through Supes, even if he has super sharp claws made of adamantium...it would be like trying to drive a steak knife through a tree. Even though the steel is stronger than the wood, you need a certain amount of force to cut through a given amount of mass.

That being said, Wolverine regularly cuts through steel doors, fences, etc, which shouldn't be possible, but in the comics he does it.


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This is out of the book entitled : The Science of The X-Men
The only thing that cut apart adamantium is a certain type of particle beam. Given the hardness of adamantium, it is conceivable that it would retain its stability and cohesion even when shaved to molecular thickness. Were one to make steel claws this sharp, they wouldnt remain so for long: the edges would ebrade and become dull. This is obviously not the case for wolverine's adamantium claws. they might be thin enough to slice grooves of molecular thinness. No wonder he can hack up just about anything. If you start with a little molecule-thin cut on a hunk of rock or metal then you should be able to quickly saw right through it, for at the molecular level, even the toughest substances are susceptible to gettin trimmed.

I say superman has bled from many diferrent ways in a fight. For example: the bony exo-skeleton protrusions of Doomsday. Well that may be just brute force. Which is harder and sharper? Adamantium claws or bone? Claws for sure....... Wolverine doesnt need to swing or exert maximium strength to slice something or someone with his claws. They are razor sharp, he just keeps hacking....Hulks skin wasnt completely impervious to them. Hulk just has a rapid healing rate. Which Superman has also.

Just some food for thought. enjoy big grin

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In X2, Stryker said that by melting adamantium, he was able to use it. That means extreme heat it's weakness. Only extreme.

Superman's heat vision would definitely melt it down. Can't get more extreme than that.


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well yea he apparantly can control the temp of his vision, sometimes he causes serious amounts of damage with it and apparantly scientists couldnt put a number to how hot his heat was, but they can gesture an estimate of the sun... he can take the heat of the sun and shine it through his eyes at a higher temp than the source of which he takes the heat from... well he's superman lol can't think of too much else as to why he does what he does.

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what is that metal that Deathstroke the terminators sword is made of? its DC's answer to Adamantium.


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Superman can probably bend and break both primary and secondary adamantium, along with carbonadium. He most likely cannot even make a dent in captain america's shield though.


primary adamantium and vibranium (?) are near equal in durability. if he could break adamantium then he could break cap's shield. i doubt he could though.


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