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Bench press

How much can Superman bench press? Is there even a ballpark figure?


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Theres no official figure. He has never had a cap on his strength, never had a limit. If a situation calls for it you can bet your sweet ass he will step up and if it cant be done, sun dip time.

But to give you a rough idea he has moved a planet, split one of Saturns moons in half and helped move the moon and earth more than once, tossed a planet sized spacecraft and lifts ocean liners and submarines with one hand like its nothing.


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I would like to know what the largest object he has lifted, while standing on the ground only. This planet puhsing stuff happens when he flies, and that's more like his inner TK doing the work.
Anyone has scans of such standing feats, let's see them.


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Originally posted by roughrider
I would like to know what the largest object he has lifted, while standing on the ground only. This planet puhsing stuff happens when he flies, and that's more like his inner TK doing the work.
Anyone has scans of such standing feats, let's see them.
This is not the most impressive strength feat, but it's cool nonetheless...

Superman easily lifts this submarine with one arm:





FYI, the average weight of a nuclear submarine [including the crew], is between 30,000-40,000 tons.


The one Supes lifted in that scan looks WAY bigger then normal imo.


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Didn't All-Star Superman resist a machine pressing with a force of about 200 quintotons? And with one-arm, yet? And he wasn't even straining? (I'm still trying to figure out what the floor was made of).

For us humans, a benchpress is typically about 50% more than a standing military press. This would mean about 3x more than a 1-arm press.

So, ballpark figure (according to this scenario): All-Star Superman can benchpress at least 600 quintotons. However, since (afaik) AS Superman is about 3x stronger than "regular" Superman, the latter can benchpress...figure at least 200 quintotons.


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Didn't All-Star Superman resist a machine pressing with a force of about 200 quintotons? And with one-arm, yet? And he wasn't even straining? (I'm still trying to figure out what the floor was made of).

For us humans, a benchpress is typically about 50% more than a standing military press. This would mean about 3x more than a 1-arm press.

So, ballpark figure (according to this scenario): All-Star Superman can benchpress at least 600 quintotons. However, since (afaik) AS Superman is about 3x stronger than "regular" Superman, the latter can benchpress...figure at least 200 quintotons.


WOW, I was going to say alot, and your methodical logic has proved me right....alot. Thanks mr sciencesmile


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Is Silver Surfer about on Supermans level of strength?

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WOW, I was going to say alot, and your methodical logic has proved me right....alot. Thanks mr sciencesmile
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Is Silver Surfer about on Supermans level of strength?
It's always been said that SS can amp his strength with power cosmic, but basically he doesn't because he relies more on applied energy.

Offhand, however, I'd have to give Superman his due. When it comes to pure strength, few are his equal or superior (an enraged Hulk comes first to mind).


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Offhand, however, I'd have to give Superman his due. When it comes to pure strength, few are his equal or superior (an enraged Hulk comes first to mind).
Hulk has never lifted anything remotely close to 200 Quintillion tons. confused


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Hulk has never lifted anything remotely close to 200 Quintillion tons. confused
Well, here's my 2-cents worth on that.

First of all, every bio I've ever read on the Hulk states that his strength has shown no limit. So theoretically the potential is there.

Secondly, I believe there are feats in the Hulk Respect thread which suggest comparable power. What first comes to mind is when he punched that 2xEarth-sized asteroid into pieces. Now before someone says "Punching power does not necessarily equate to lifting strength," may I remind everyone that power = strength x speed. Since the Hulk is hardly the fastest character, he has to make up the bulk of his punching power in strength.

Third (and this is entirely personal opinion): the Hulk is supposed to be Strength Incarnate, kind of like Flash being Speed Incarnate. If you have a whole mess of characters faster than the Flash, than what's the point of the Flash? Same with Hulk: if you're gonna have tons of characters stronger, then Hulk is pointless. Granted, there are plenty of characters who are more powerful overall (especially given the fact that the Hulk requires time and, um, "motivation" to amp up), but if one is to stay true to what the Hulk is supposed to be, then truly he should be the "strongest one there is."

Unfortunately, it seems that over the last few years, the Hulk (along with his Marvelmate, Galactus) has become a Master Jobber, as if the writers were using the Hulk to show how tough some other character is by beating him. I wonder if, and certainly would like to see this situation rectified in World War Hulk.


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Well, here's my 2-cents worth on that.

First of all, every bio I've ever read on the Hulk states that his strength has shown no limit. So theoretically the potential is there.
Hulk has never lifted anything remotely close to that weight.


So, while the potential might be there...... He has never actually lifted anything near that weight.

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Secondly, I believe there are feats in the Hulk Respect thread which suggest comparable power. What first comes to mind is when he punched that 2xEarth-sized asteroid into pieces. Now before someone says "Punching power does not necessarily equate to lifting strength," may I remind everyone that power = strength x speed. Since the Hulk is hardly the fastest character, he has to make up the bulk of his punching power in strength.
If I fire a bullet at a watermelon, what happens to that watermelon?

Exactly. smile



And if you recall, Hulk was using tech [in the form of spring shoes], to propel himself into space in that instance, so he would have had to be moving MUCH faster then normal.


The asteroid instance, isn't a lifting feat at all.


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If I fire a bullet at a watermelon, what happens to that watermelon?
Are you implying it should explode from the speed?

(Sorry, I couldn't find a bullet-through-melon pic)

I imagine that a watermelon -- being much bigger than an apple in relation to the bullet -- would be even less likely to break up into pieces. Hulk's fist, in relation to that asteroid, would be even smaller.

Anyway, Hulk not going through the asteroid suggests speed was not the deciding factor.


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Are you implying it should explode from the speed?

(Sorry, I couldn't find a bullet-through-melon pic)

I imagine that a watermelon -- being much bigger than an apple in relation to the bullet -- would be even less likely to break up into pieces.
Fire a 44 magnum at a watermelon, and see what happens. smile

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Anyway, Hulk not going through the asteroid suggests speed was not the deciding factor.
Ahh, but it was.

Hulk was moving forward at what looked to be a very fast rate.

Had Hulk of accomplished the same feat while standing in one location not moving at all, it would have been MUCH different.



Again,

Hulk has never lifted anything close to 200 quintillion tons.


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Fire a 44 magnum at a watermelon, and see what happens. smile
Supposition...which is fair, since I'm doing my share of it. But a picture would strengthen your point.

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Hulk was moving forward at what looked to be a very fast rate.


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Had Hulk accomplished the same feat while standing in one location not moving at all, it would have been MUCH different.
But not necessarily what you imagine (and in all fairness, not necessarily what I imagine, either. Again, supposition).


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Supposition...which is fair, since I'm doing my share of it. But a picture would strengthen your point.
Next time I go out shooting, I'll take a before and after picture for ya. lol


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Originally posted by Galan007
This is not the most impressive strength feat, but it's cool nonetheless...

Superman easily lifts this submarine with one arm:





FYI, the average weight of a nuclear submarine [including the crew], is between 30,000-40,000 tons.


The one Supes lifted in that scan looks WAY bigger then normal imo.


I said standing on the ground. He's flying with it.
Also, isn't that All-Star Superman? His strength levels are not part of continuity.

Something Superman just picks up and throws, without his feet leaving the ground.
We've seen this stuff in the movies; comics, I can't think of an example right now.


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I said standing on the ground. He's flying with it.
Also, isn't that All-Star Superman? His strength levels are not part of continuity.
How do you think that submarine got out of the water in the first place?

Superman lifted it. yes



And no, that is not All-Star Superman. smile


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I think it's safe to say that even Byrnes' Superman could've lifted that sub with 1 arm, while standing. Even if that sub weighed 200,000 tons (more than two Nimitz-class carriers), that's still far, far less than the weight of a mountain.


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I think it's safe to say that even Byrnes' Superman could've lifted that sub with 1 arm, while standing. Even if that sub weighed 200,000 tons (more than two Nimitz-class carriers), that's still far, far less than the weight of a mountain.
yes

I just think that's a cool scan, that's all.


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I can't believe I came across this while google-imaging 'benchpress'. This is far more impressive than a mere 44 magnum.
http://www.worth1000.com/emailthis.asp?entry=139012
(scroll down a bit when you get to the page and look closely)


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