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Let's think about this, what is the Surfers top feat?
What is Supermans. Power has a specific scientific meaning. I would ask you has the Surfer ever displayed the physical ability to move something the size of the Solar system like Maggeddon?
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what i don't like about superman's powers is that they're inconsistent. on moment he's flying in space in a space suit, next thing you know he's throwinf somebody into the sun with a battle torn costume...
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Yes he turned the Millwheels of something the size of the solar system. That didn't look a very big blackhole. Which a know sounds silly when talking about infinite mass but..... It's comics and size is everything. Size of the Solar System>small black hole.
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not really we know it was a geared system and given the size of the object this geared system was moving we must assume the friction alone was infinite and incalculable. This is before we get past the concept that Superman was overcoming Friction and Inertia to move said Mill wheels.
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Actually in the same way that all calculations become infinite when dealing with a singularity like a black hole. So would the calculations for friction of a geared system large enough to move something the size of a solar system.
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Actually no, the calculations for a Singualarity are infinite in terms of it's density you can have a single atom in mass but infinite density. That's the principle of a singularity. It means calculations on black holes power usage is next to impossible. As for Friction the Mass of a solid object the size of the Solar System would to all intensive purposes be infinite. It would actually bow space time around it. Whilst not infinitely dense itself it's mass would actually be pulling against the Universes very fabric. This would mean that it would be pulling against the infinite and warping space. To move such an object with a geared system would require an equal level of force. The friction like every other calculation would be infinite.
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A singularity is only infinite in terms of density and not mass.
The planets in a solar system have measurable mass, however a solid object the size of a solar sytem whilst also having measurable mass would be so massive that like a black hole it would warp space. Now where a blackhole has infinite density the Mageddon device would not, however it would be so massive that it would Warp Space/time itself to an infinite degree. The gravity well it would be pulling against would indeed be infinite. Therefore to move it would require infinite power. Because you would be pulling against the Mass of the Universe itself.
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I do not need to, we know that giant stars actually can make black holes, objects of infinite density orbit them as they have greater mass. At the same time said black hole will constantly be pulling the very star stuff from the star. We also know that heat can and does move against the gravity gradiant of a black hole down a thermal gradient back into cold space. We do know larger objects than the than the Solar system exist. However these are gaseous and have a far lower density than a solid like Mageddon.
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Sep 24th, 2007 01:37 PM
. You're totally ignoring that point, and just GUESSING at it. 
