There are two reasons why superman level of power is inconsistent. Its because of the red sunlight and kryptonite. Each time superman receives radiation of kryptonite and red sun, it decreases his power to zero. The question is "how many times it happened since the reboot of superman"? In addition, all the feats of superman are inconsistent because it all depends of the amount of solar energy he had. Still it didn't come to a point where Superman absorbs too much energy and his energy reached another dimension. The logic about superman's level of power increasing many times per day is FALSE because of his weakness.
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Red Sun radiation doesn't rob Superman of his powers, it simply freezes them. Access to his powers start to shut down over a period of time.
Kryptonite doesn’t reduce his power to zero, not unless he's exposed to a large amount over a long period of time. Recently, he managed to fight AAB while dealing with kryptonite poisoning.
And in the Power Struggle storyline, Superman was overloading with power. He feared that his slightest touch would level an entire city block.
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Last edited by Rorschach on Jun 19th, 2008 at 12:11 PM
Ruin used the red sun radiation to sap superman's power.
It doesn't change the fact that it decreases his power.
Superman overloading with power and that his slightest touch would level an entire city block was not even a universal threat of power. It's kind of power that wouldn't even reach another dimension, modern-age Superman is weak.
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Last edited by nij-ayias on Jun 20th, 2008 at 01:51 PM
No, Ruin used red sun radiation to ‘freeze’ Superman’s power. It’s called a retcon. Try to keep up with the character, if you’re going act like you know about the character.
Only temporarily.
It doesn’t matter. The point is, Superman can access too much solar energy. Prior to Infinite Crisis, it was believed that Superman originally transformed into Superman Blue because he accessed too much solar energy, and reverted back to his normal form after expending that energy during his fight the Millennium Giants. He also transformed in OWAW.
I don’t get what you mean by ‘reaching another dimension’. Could you please say that in a way in which it would make some sort of sense?
Heh, I suppose that’s your opinion. I don’t consider Post-Crisis Superman to be weak, simply because he’s not as powerful as the Pre-Crisis version. I don’t even consider characters like Spider-Man to be ‘weak’, unless it’s in comparison to a character that is significantly more powerful.
I imagine he's trying to insinuate that Goku is more powerful than Superman because his power could be sensed in the afterlife.
This is of course rediculous. Superman has never truely radiated his reserves of energy outwards like Goku does. His power is internalised. Red Kryptonite was used once during the tower of babel to have this effect but Superman contained his energy through his willpower.
Its also worth noting that we've never had a situation in DC where
characters are shown in the afterlife commenting on a match.
Wait so unless Superman's a universal threat he's weak?
Your dumb,seriously give it up,superman will beat gokus ass its that simple,superman keeps his energy on the inside gokus forces his out theres a big difference,let me know when goku ever resisted universe destroyers or moved planets with physical might or any of the other feats superman has that shit on goku.
When he’s around kryptonite his powers don’t increase. But if he’s around kryptonite, and then leaves the vicinity of kryptonite, his powers will soon reach the level they were at before he was exposed to kryptonite.
It's about energy and energy has presence, anyone has energy including superman but its not enough to reach another dimension. Is that hard enough for you to understand? Keeping the energy from the inside for other people to not detect it is a dbz-skill, since when did superman learn that? By the way, Modern-Age Superman has incredible feats and it requires tremendous energy to do that but still not enough to reach another dimension.
Modern-Age Superman's energy = sunlight = can only reach another galaxy
I know Goku cant resist universe buster, but since when does Modern-Age Superman or original Kal-el survived a universe buster?
That is my reason why his powers don't increase continuously because most of his opponents uses kryptonite, instead of increasing continuously his power only reaches the level they were at before he was exposed to kryptonite. Is that increase?
As long as kryptonite exists, his power will never increase continuously. Besides a one year exposure to yellow sun radiation doesn't give him 100 times increase in power.
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Last edited by nij-ayias on Jun 30th, 2008 at 05:19 AM
You are a fanboy who uses ridiculous unquantifiable bullshit like energy being felt in another dimensions over actual feats, an area Superman destroys Goku in.
He isn’t always exposed to kryptonite, so whatever point you’re trying to make is moot.
And no one’s claiming Superman becomes considerably more and more powerful with every passing moment. He becomes more powerful as the years pass, but it takes along time for him to really have a significant increase in his strength, speed, etc. However, we do know for certain that Kryptonians do become more and powerful as time passes. This is backed up by not only by Superman’s increase in power from the Bryne Era, but also with the appearance of Chris Kent in Arena.
Being sensed from another dimension isn't exactly a huge feat in the DBU. We already know ki can be felt from other dimensions - King Kai was sensing people from other dimensions back in the Saiyan saga.
Also, the idea of what is required to feel something in another dimension is a bit blurred in the DBU - remember when Goku was trying to find the new Namek's planet by sensing their ki from earth, but couldn't, even though it was just somewhere else in the universe? Then he teleported to King Kai's dimension and he could feel it from there. So in that case, sensing ki from another dimension was easier than sensing it somewhere else in the universe. It's useless as a feat.
Darkseid has spied on Superman from Apokolips, which is in another dimension. Is that somehow a feat for Superman now?
It's not moot, its fact. More powerful as the years pass but takes along time for him to really have a significant increase in powers doesn't mean 3 times increase of power in a single heartbeat.
What are you saying "HARDLY PRETENDER'?
Take note, "DARKSEID HAS SPIED ON SUPERMAN". Now tell me, where's statement "POWER ENOUGH TO REACH THIS xxxx" where ?
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Last edited by nij-ayias on Jul 3rd, 2008 at 06:57 AM
ehm, I agree with nij-ayias, about this topic, the inconsistent of Superman's power. because Superman got energy from sunlight. I can assume that Superman is like a solar panel. so, how many joules do you expect from sun energy that can be absorbed by solar panel? even it has 100% efficiency, or has been charged 100 years, or multiple solar panel combined together but still it can't even move a mountain. so that I think Superman's power is hyperbolic.
If you really want to kill Superman, show him gold Kryptonite which would make Superman completely human with human level abilities since it nullifies all of Superman's superhuman powers, shot him with the bullet in the head and transport him at the end of time-end of story.