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The Official Superman's Abilities - Discussion Thread

This thread will be used for discussions regarding Superman's various abilities. What he can and cannot do, what are his limits etc.

Everybody is welcomed to comment as long as it does not involve trolling or insults.

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Superman - Faster than Lightspeed ?


Yes, he is. Flight speed and movement/combat speed/reaction time. In order to prove it, I could use statements (like reacting in-between nanoseconds, even being flat-out stated that he can achieve lightspeed) but I preffer to use feats. Not only that, but I'm going to use feats of current (post-Infinite Crisis) Superman.

Flight speed

Flying aproximatley 25 light-years in minutes at most. (Vega is 25 light-years from Earth)

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Goes close to the edge of the Andromeda Galaxy and back. It is aproximatley 2.5 million light-years away from us.

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Travels lightyears in a short period of time.

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Combat speed/Perception/Reaction time

Superman is fast enough see, recognize and react at Barry passing by him at superluminal speeds.

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Easily tracking lightspeed signals.

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Superman rebuilds Metropolis in moments.

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Deflects Kryptonite radiation.

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I'd like to bring up T-Vo. It's a rarely used power, but I was wondering if anyone has a complete list of the times it has been used and exactly what it did


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It's sort of non canon now. At least Johns has said he never intends to use it, which means it won't be used again for a good many years.

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Been wondering this for a long time, and did a few google searches too. What's T-Vo?


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Torquasm-Vo, a Kryptonian mental martial art, basically he needs to bring his brain up to a "theta state" in which case he can take a battle from the physical to the mental plane, and combat against reality warpers.

I've never read a story featuring it and only seen a few scans.


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So are we all agreed that Superman > light?


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So are we all agreed that Superman > light?

Travel-wise, yes. Combat wise, no, I don't think its close. Over the speed of sound? Sure.

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So are we all agreed that Superman > light?


It's undebateable, tbh.

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Combat wise, no, I don't think its close. Over the speed of sound? Sure.



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Meh, if you wanna use real world science...light moves about one foot per nanosecond. 'Bout 3.3 nanoseconds to travel one yard. So, since he's got nanosecond reaction speeds, I guess a case could be made for it.

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i think he meant your "speed of sound" comment. superman's reactions would be far above that, imo, not just a bit...


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Like I said, I'd rather not use statements.

But since he has the feats I posted, I don't need to anyway.


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What I'd like to know is, How does Superman move (in flight/combat) FTL?

Pre-crisis Supes did it because writers just ignored the whole lightspeed-limit thing. But since the speedforce was invented to explain how the Flash could bypass relativistic effects as well as the lightspeed limit -- suggesting more recent writers are paying some heed to real-world physics -- what's the explanation given for Superman's FTL (or for that matter, his bypassing relativistic effects)?


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What I'd like to know is, How does Superman move (in flight/combat) FTL?

Pre-crisis Supes did it because writers just ignored the whole lightspeed-limit thing. But since the speedforce was invented to explain how the Flash could bypass relativistic effects as well as the lightspeed limit -- suggesting more recent writers are paying some heed to real-world physics -- what's the explanation given for Superman's FTL (or for that matter, his bypassing relativistic effects)?


he doesn't always bypass them, which is why within the atmosphere he has to be careful.

it depends on the writer, tbh...


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What I'd like to know is, How does Superman move (in flight/combat) FTL?

Pre-crisis Supes did it because writers just ignored the whole lightspeed-limit thing. But since the speedforce was invented to explain how the Flash could bypass relativistic effects as well as the lightspeed limit -- suggesting more recent writers are paying some heed to real-world physics -- what's the explanation given for Superman's FTL (or for that matter, his bypassing relativistic effects)?


Similar to anti gravity, in a round about way.

Don't even start me on how a human sized solar battery could create the energies needed to create this mini cosmic inflation. But for all the super geeks out there who only care about Power levels, i suppose its a literary device to get round the problem. Alcubierre drive = Deus ex Machina.


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he doesn't always bypass them, which is why within the atmosphere he has to be careful.

it depends on the writer, tbh...


IMO, writers scientific credulity is a good gauge for how bad they are.


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Similar to anti gravity, in a round about way.

Don't even start me on how a human sized solar battery could create the energies needed to create this mini cosmic inflation. But for all the super geeks out there who only care about Power levels, i suppose its a literary device to get round the problem. Alcubierre drive = Deus ex Machina.
If Superman uses any form of space distortion, that's fine with me. I just think it ought to be mentioned, at least once in a while.


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i think he meant your "speed of sound" comment. superman's reactions would be far above that, imo, not just a bit...
Well over the speed of sound could be anything from Mach 1.1-9.9% lightspeed, which is .1% under relativistic speeds, which basically means "near lightspeed" in this context. He never specified exactly how much above lightspeed.

Personally, I think Superman's combat speed is at least in the relativistic area, 10% of lightspeed or more, possibly achieving lightspeed or FTL in this regard. Of course I am not going to prove any of this, being far too lazy.

One thing I would like to ask is exactly how strong is Superman? Obviously above the Quintillion tons range, but generally how strong?


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