I know that the most powerful villain in X-Men could be Dark Phoenix or Apocalpyse, but I don't know how to compare it. Maybe I 'll stay with Dark Phoenix. And how about you ?
Dark Phoenix is probably the most dangerous/strongest. Due to the complete lack of hesitation in just killing everything and everyone around "her". Where as with villians like Magneto or Apocalpyse it is not often that they just cut loose without certain vested interests.
As for Apocalypse being one of the most powerful, not even close. Magneto fought him one on one in the comics and Apocalypse was completely slaughtered.
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little hard for Onslaught to function when the whole planet is blown away under his butt. that's just a mild demostration of the power of Dark Phoenix. That's about realistic as comparing Galactus to a fly. Dark Phoenix all the way.
I know that she is nowhere near the strongest villain, but Spiral was pretty powerful. She was able to cancel powers momentarily, her mind was immune to possession, conquer an alternate Earth ( Shatterstar graphic novel ), etc.
While I agree that theres no comparison, DP would win. I dont think it matters if she blows up the planet, having Magnetos powers means Onslaught could build himself an asteroid from the planets remains If he had to but Onslaughts true form being energy I think he'll survive without a corporal body.
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* Magneto can be a very strong villain, and also Mr. Sinister... battling Omega Red or Juggernaut is also nice since because when these villains sprout, their teamwork always stands-out...
If you're referring to X-Men: the Last Stand she wasn't weaker than Wolverine. Hell, Callisto confirms that Jean is "more powerful" than Magneto himself, and it's a recurring theme in the movies that Magneto has a friggen field day with beating the shit out of Wolverine.
She also put Juggernaut, Storm, Callisto and Wolverine on their asses - as well as Magneto - while simultaneously levitating a house and disintigrating the most powerful telepath on the planet (Xavier).
Simply because he beat her doesn't mean he's stronger. His healing factor simply gave him an advantage, but he is a speck compared to her, power-wise.
Onslaught, he crushed the phoenix in his hand once. Onslaught at the height of his power could stand up to Dark Phoenix easily. And keep in mind if your going by villain then only "Dark" Phoenix counts.
And yes X3 did a horrible job where Dark Phoenix was concern.
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Onslaught did not crush the Phoenix in his hands, he summoned the Phoenix imagery to remind Jean of the power she once wielded, he was trying to seduce her because Xaiver was smitten with her, onslaught being the twisted version of xavier wanted to make her his bride, he was also interested in her being a template for something so powerful because he was preparing himself for god-hood. It was well known in those days that there was no trace of the phoenix force in jean when that happened. it was all astral plane trickery. remember this was the second time onslaught had appeared to jean, if xaiver knew that jean was omega level than you bet your ass onslaught knew. he was more interested in her than anybody else, but she challenged him at every turn, so his next best choice a naive toddler who can warp reality, his initial interest in xman stemmed from him being curious about AOA and a world run by mutants, he was pissed at what he saw and decided to keep nate. Considering that only dark phoenix counts, onslaught at the height of his power would have been eaten since his true form is just a mass of sentient psionic energy, psionic energy which by the way comes from the phoenix, dark or not since she is the nexus of all psionic energy that was, is and will be.
1) Yes she did have the phoenix with her at that time. Did you forget that issue in Alaska before that where Scott found her in the snow and it had melted into a phoenix image around her?
2) I meant Onslaught when he had access to Franklin and Nate Grey's powers.
3)The White Crown Phoenix is the nexus, not Dark Phoenix.
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