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LanceWindu
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Jedi Mind Tricks
How come in TPM when Qui-Gon is trying to use mind tricks on Watto, he doesn't know mind trick don't work on Toydarians? Since Qui-Gon is a Jedi Master he should know which species he can use his "magic" on. Right?
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Aug 26th, 2001 10:13 PM |
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Ushgarak
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It's a VERY big Galaxy. Even Qui-Gon hasn't seen EVERYTHING. Remember how amusing he finds Anakin's question 'Has anyone ever been to them all?', asking about the stars.
'Not likely!' replies Qui-Gon, at such a question.
There are countless planets and races out there, and there is only so much you can know.
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Aug 26th, 2001 10:32 PM |
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Ratcat
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Take an example closer to home, how much do you know about the tribes of africa or the religious practices of Eskimos?
Shouldn't you know these, you live on the samne planet after all.
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Aug 26th, 2001 10:35 PM |
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LanceWindu
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Yousa point is well seen
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Aug 26th, 2001 11:26 PM |
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jedi212guy
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Besides, Tatooine isn't exactly the place that you visit often. 
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Aug 27th, 2001 02:53 AM |
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yerssot
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AND I think that Watto is the only Toydarian on Tatooine. You can't know everything
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Aug 27th, 2001 07:16 AM |
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LanceWindu
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But the Jedi have a huge database full of the species and of individual people. The database travels back thousands of years.
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Aug 27th, 2001 07:28 AM |
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yerssot
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So?
I have a large library at home, but do you think that I know every book of it?
btw:
"Whatta think you are? A Jedi with your hand waving around like that? I'm a Toydorian! Mindtricks don't work with me, only money."
You can say that HE is imune and the other Toydorians not. Mindtricks don't work on my species.
That would say that he and others are imune. He doesn't say that
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Aug 27th, 2001 10:29 AM |
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Ushgarak
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Possibly, but that is over-extrapolation. The presented scenario is that Toydarians are immune.
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Aug 27th, 2001 10:25 PM |
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LanceWindu
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Yeah
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Aug 28th, 2001 06:47 AM |
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yerssot
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There are thousands of species, they could know that but what I know is thatt QGJ is a human with a limited amount of 'capacity'.
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Aug 28th, 2001 12:03 PM |
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ToMacco
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George Lucas has a way of dealing with script flaws like this: he just says "oh, it'll be explained later."
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Sep 27th, 2001 04:23 AM |
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Ratcat
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I don't think ot needs to be. I believe Wattos "Mind tricks don't work on me." statement says it all. Toydarians, like Hutts, are immune to the Jedi mind trick.
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Sep 27th, 2001 06:30 AM |
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yerssot
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There are a lot of things that people don't know, like ysalamari, that took them years to find out.
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Sep 27th, 2001 03:07 PM |
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Tex
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No Excuse, Qui-Gon should of studied more about different aliens in Jedi School 
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Sep 28th, 2001 04:36 PM |
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yerssot
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Do you know how much aliens there are in the SW gal???
You can't know everything about them
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Sep 29th, 2001 11:15 AM |
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ToMacco
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Registered: Sep 2001
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In TPM, Qui-Gon used minds tricks to fool Boss Nass into giving them a ship and Jar Jar. Then why did he tell Obi-wan that they couldn't use mind tricks to persuade the Gungans to fight at the end?
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Oct 1st, 2001 03:55 AM |
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yerssot
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I don't know were this is said 
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Oct 1st, 2001 07:33 AM |
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Ratcat
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That's total BS, it was never said.
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Oct 1st, 2001 08:43 AM |
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Ushgarak
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He said that 'we cannot use our powers to help'
I assumed that this means they could not use their mind powers to convince Boss Nass to help them.
This may be because that Qui-Gon had no authority to draw someone else into the war like that, or because Amidala had asked him not to.
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