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spekdah
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Shmis' grave

so ya reckon Owen told Luke that his grandmother was buried near the front door?

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I think he did, he just didn't tell she got abused and raped by the sandpeople.


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I reckon Shmi Skywalker didn't exist in the 70's.


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those same head stone for ep 2 werent in ep4...to the best of knowledge. I tried looking many times and have failed to notice yet.


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According to some books ive read, Owen removed the headstones to avoid Luke asking awkward questions about his heritage.


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ok question answered


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Hmm, what would he say?

Owen: Alright Luke, before those StormTroopers come and kill us, here's the truth. Your grandmother is buried under that headstone. She died of being violated and savagely beaten by Sand People. Your father came, learning about this, went to the tuskin camp and punked their asses. We then buried her here, where he cried and cried like the litty pussy that he was. And now look at him, Darth Vader, who'd've known..

Luke: What? Darth Vader's my FATHER!?

Owen:...Great, I've just ruined the greatest suspense thriller to ever be put on the big screen.


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so basically, the book was just cleaning up plot errors that skipped GL's mind...?


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quote: (post)
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so basically, the book was just cleaning up plot errors that skipped GL's mind...?

That's not unusual.


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Re: Shmis' grave

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Originally posted by spekdah
so ya reckon Owen told Luke that his grandmother was buried near the front door?

i think not, because then luke would have been more interested in his parents and asked more questions.


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Read star wars tattooine ghost it has every thing about the events leading up shimi's death read by her daughter leia.


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Oh course Shmi existed in the 70s in Lucas' drafts, it's part of Anakin's fall to the Dark Side.

We don't know the answer, but I reckon he told him the graves were of his grandmother, and the other grave too, whomever that was, maybe another Lars. I also reckon he told Luke that she was killed by the sand people. About his father's deeds there, probably not.

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I think the other gave would be Cliegg Lars, because he wasn't in ep 4.


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Oh course Shmi existed in the 70s in Lucas' drafts, it's part of Anakin's fall to the Dark Side.
You must be sarcastic. Lucas had only limited idea's for what happened before ANH. We can't assume Lucas already made up the death of Vaders mother if he hadn't even made up already that Vader was in fact Anakin.


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Of course Lucas knew all along that Vader was Luke's father! Lucas has said the name "Darth Vader" was made up because he wanted something that sounded like "dark father." Read any "making of" book or article.

Lucas had his draft/outline/whatever done, then cut it out everything else to just have ANH. While he probably didn't go into such details as to put names on the 3rd Stormtrooper on the Left, he did map out all the major plot twists, and I'm making an educated guess that Shmii's death was a part of it. That was a major point of Anakin's fall.

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quote:
Of course Lucas knew all along that Vader was Luke's father! Lucas has said the name "Darth Vader" was made up because he wanted something that sounded like "dark father." Read any "making of" book or article.

Nope, that was over analysing, Vader comes from invader probably.
And believe me, it wasn't Lucas who made up that Vader should be Lukes father. I hope I don't have to go through the trouble of proving it for you.

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Lucas had his draft/outline/whatever done, then cut it out everything else to just have ANH. While he probably didn't go into such details as to put names on the 3rd Stormtrooper on the Left, he did map out all the major plot twists, and I'm making an educated guess that Shmii's death was a part of it. That was a major point of Anakin's fall.

You are acting like SuperShadow to state that Lucas already had the whole SW plot line by the time he directed A New Hope. He actually had a very limited idea of what happened before ANH.


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quote: (post)
Originally posted by SS_181st_Snow
Hmm, what would he say?

Owen: Alright Luke, before those StormTroopers come and kill us, here's the truth. Your grandmother is buried under that headstone. She died of being violated and savagely beaten by Sand People. Your father came, learning about this, went to the tuskin camp and punked their asses. We then buried her here, where he cried and cried like the litty pussy that he was. And now look at him, Darth Vader, who'd've known..

Luke: What? Darth Vader's my FATHER!?

Owen:...Great, I've just ruined the greatest suspense thriller to ever be put on the big screen.



LOL Homer did the same thing. Well kinda anyway.

HOMER:Wow I can't believe Darth Vader is Luke skywalkers father!
FAN:Oh thanks for ruining the movie fatso.


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laughing out loud


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Ah yes, remembering the good times. I just feel sorry for the person who was about to watch the empire strikes back and then watched that episode of the simpsons before deciding to watch star wars.


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Would Owen in ANH after C-3PO said he was C-3PO, been like finally your back! Those @$$holes stole you from me but now your back!( Did you ever notice Anakin and Padme left with C-3PO, without even telling Clieg(sp?),Owen,or Beru?)


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