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Did Grand Moff Tarkin basically control Vader's every move
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Darth_Hexus
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Did Grand Moff Tarkin basically control Vader's every move

he told vader to do and not do things repetively in star wars, like to let go of the dude he was choking


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Yes ok, welcome to 2006...

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I would have thought it would just happen on the Death Star, no doubt Palpatine had instructed Vader to serve the Moff and most probably report back to him.


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Check out the SW radio drama. Granted, Tarkin was the highest ranking officer in teh Imperial Navy, but Vader was the personal representative of the Emperor. It's like being sent to work for your fathers company, and not being named CEO. Vader had his place in the Empire, as did Tarkin. In the radio drama, when Tarkin suggested destroying Alderaan, Vader suggested that the Emperor be consulted. Tarkin however, pointed out that to do so would be irrelevant, as the Emperor had given him free reign in the matters that concerned the Death Star. The end result is Vader knowing that the Emperor would allow the operation to occur. Why? Because the Death Star was built for a reason. That's why Vader. Tarkin and the Emperor were standing on that Star Destroyer bridge at the end of ROTS. Lucas wanted everyone to know that these guys were where the buck stopped, with the Emperor being the ultimate in authority.

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Thats strange, I read that When Vador was bassically "New" to the millitary and was not very respected, even laughed at, And Tarkin was basically watching his back, And within short time Vador's Authority Grew , respect grew, people feared him over time.


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I find it disappointing they didn't show much of the military (not counting Clonetroopers) in ROTS. You have all this PT stuff and then it seemed like Lucas wanted to link ANH all of a sudden by placing that scene with Tarkin, Vader, and Palpatine along with the green-uniformed officers together. It was good to feel nostalgic but at the same time, I'm like "where and when did all these people get appointed??" It would've been nice to see conscripts or Tarkin appear earlier in the movie.

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Thats strange, I read that When Vador was bassically "New" to the millitary and was not very respected, even laughed at, And Tarkin was basically watching his back, And within short time Vador's Authority Grew , respect grew, people feared him over time.


New? To the military? He was a commander in teh Republican army for the whole Clone Wars.

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Yeah, he wasn't new, but he was underneath Tarkin in importance, yes.

In fact, GL makes that very clear on the ANH commentary.

However, after the loss of Tarkin, it is clear that Vader takes the top spot for these things.


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It's probably because of the other writer input that Vader suddenly becomes such an important person when it comes to commanding and such.


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Re: Did Grand Moff Tarkin basically control Vader's every move

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Originally posted by DarthMaul9123
he told vader to do and not do things repetively in star wars, like to let go of the dude he was choking

it has been discussed before a few times... now, people gave the answer but (without wanting to sound annoying) next time you should search things up before cause some hate it if there is repetition in the threads
(just so you know)

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Also, Vader probably wasn't much of a military genius right after the Empire was formed. That was Tarkin's job until Vader was more adept at it, and by the time Tarkin kicked the bucket, Vader was all set to be the slavedriver...


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I guess Vader was the muscle and Tarkin was the brains behind the operation.


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Originally posted by SpyCspider
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I find it disappointing they didn't show much of the military (not counting Clonetroopers) in ROTS. You have all this PT stuff and then it seemed like Lucas wanted to link ANH all of a sudden by placing that scene with Tarkin, Vader, and Palpatine along with the green-uniformed officers together. It was good to feel nostalgic but at the same time, I'm like "where and when did all these people get appointed??" It would've been nice to see conscripts or Tarkin appear earlier in the movie.

Tarkin was in darth maul shadow hunter only for a sentence or two he was a luetenant gov. i think


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I don't know if i'm allowed to mention this on this forum, but the emperor and Tarkin go back to before episode I when Tarkin helped Sidious in the events that led to the Nemoidians taking over the trade federation. Tarkin basically earned Palps' respect over the years by creating the political strategy which the Death Star was based on, the tarkin doctrine. Basically, he landed a star destroyer on a bunch of protestors. This ended protests against him. so the doctrine says that you should rule not through force, but through the fear of force. His relationship with Vader came from right after episode III when Vader enslaved the Wookies so tarkin could use them as slave labor on the death star. Their relationship is less about rank and more about genuine mutual respect and friendship. Tarkin is probably as close to palpatine as Panaka, Mas Ammeda, Sly Moore, and Sate Pestage but he's the only one that Vader has any relationship with.


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Panaka?


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Captain Panaka from Episode I was the one who told palps about anakin's wedding. He later became Moff Panaka


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Captain Panaka from Episode I was the one who told palps about anakin's wedding. He later became Moff Panaka
Wow, you're right. Wonder what ever happened to him.


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Darth_Hexus
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hope he died haha, no but really he probably died in the death star/ second star, or any furhter encounters with rebelliouse people


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I doubt he'd go in the DS's, and I doubt more than one Moff was needed per DS.


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