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koreanknight
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brother and sister?= bad idea
i think it would have been better if luke was the only child instead of there being twins. because then it would mean more pressure with luke, that he is the ONLY HOPE ya knoe?
....also that could also mean luke and leia could ve have fallen in love instead of han and leia
and it would be kinda the same story happening in the prequels
anakin and padme and obi wan a friend
luke and leia and han solo a friend
doesnt it make sense?
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Mar 18th, 2001 03:13 AM |
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JediOasis
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Yeah, I always wished that Luke would have been the only Skywalker child. It almost seemed that it wasn't too bad if he failed cause Leia was there just in case. To me Luke was the only hope. And while on the subject, I have always been upset that the authors of the EU never made Leia a Jedi. She is a Skywalker and should be a Jedi.
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Mar 18th, 2001 04:14 AM |
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DarthBorgie
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this has nothing to do with Ep.II
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Mar 23rd, 2001 03:54 AM |
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queeq
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She is learning to be a Jedi in the Thraw trilogy though. But Borgie is right.
I thought it wasn't GL's best move to resolve the trilogy. I mean, the entire saga was about Luke's father. And there pops up another family member. I accepte it but it wasn't very elegant.
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Mar 23rd, 2001 02:15 PM |
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Gundark
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I HATED Leia being Luke's sister. Luke should have been the ONLY possible hope, of defeating Vader & the Emporer and saving the galaxy. I don't like my heroes sharing the spotlight with anybody. Vader and Luke being father and son was a totally one on one thing. Evil vs. Good. I thought throwing Leia in there really skewered that one. 
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Mar 24th, 2001 10:58 PM |
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queeq
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GL was just patching up the holes in his story. Maybe OB1 turns out to be Anakin's cousin. 
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Mar 25th, 2001 04:19 AM |
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Gundark
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Now its starting to sound like spaceballs.
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Mar 25th, 2001 07:29 AM |
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Ushgarak
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Darth's thoughts on the whole thing weren't really clear, were they? He spends all that time probing her in ANH and doesn't notice. Good job they didn't do a DNA profile on her...
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Mar 25th, 2001 07:33 AM |
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Gundark
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Yeah, that scene frustrates the heck out of me. Vader couldn't sense that was his daughter ? George has yet to fill the hole on that one.
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Mar 25th, 2001 08:29 AM |
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JediOasis
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Well, maybe he just noticed she was strong in the Force, but thought nothing of it and never said anything. Plus, Luke had a little bit of training, a very little bit, the first time Vader "felt" him, that could have had something to do with it.
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Mar 25th, 2001 10:51 AM |
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queeq
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Yes, I can dig that. Perhaps the Force doesn't manifest itself until the user starts using it. But then, didn't novels and TPM say that both Luke and Anakin used it without realising that it was the Force?
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Mar 26th, 2001 03:03 AM |
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DarthBorgie
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Anakin implies he does by saying that he is the only human that can pod race. I don't know about Luke though...
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Mar 26th, 2001 03:38 AM |
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Ushgarak
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The assumption is that Luke's early piloting skills came from the Force.
However, huis early meeting with Leia aside, which is odd but not downright ridiculous, the sensing thing is ok. Vader only senses Luke because he is actively lookuing for him- and I would reckon it was the name that let him twig onto the slight possibility that they were related...
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Mar 26th, 2001 04:42 AM |
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queeq
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That's not entirely true, Ush. Vader sensed Luke during the Death Star Trench run. ("The Force is strong with this one.")
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Mar 26th, 2001 02:15 PM |
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Ushgarak
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That's just a term for good fortune, surely?
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Mar 27th, 2001 01:04 AM |
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queeq
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You think? I don't. Vader was on Luke's tail and he sensed it. Maybe it was because of OB1's presence, but I'm quite sure it was about Luke's force sensitivity.
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Mar 27th, 2001 01:39 PM |
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Gundark
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I agree with queeq..(did I say that again ?) Vader was sensing Luke in the DS trench. It was the same time Luke was using the force to target the reactor shaft. I've heard some people say that was the moment they knew about the father/son relationship.
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Mar 27th, 2001 05:34 PM |
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Ushgarak
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I don't think he was using the Force in any way that could be sensed to hit the shaft; he was using his Force-based gift of incredible instinct.I'm pretty sure Vader says "The Force is Strong with this one" in the same way we would say "This one is a tricky bugger, eh?"
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Mar 28th, 2001 12:59 AM |
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In terms of Leia in case anyone wanted to know Leia was a jedi by the point of Dark Empire II and along side Luke slew the returned emperor. Besides that, I actually shall stand against the common man in that I quite like that Han got the girl even if it does mean he at some point may be forced to settle down. Luke on the other hand as already been highlighted in other chats as a bit of a nancy boy. Not that I'm claiming he has strange proclivities, but none the less I'm happier for Han than I would be for Luke. As for the galaxy wuld you truly trust the whole galaxies fate to one person? personnaly I think the other who helpedsave it anyway was Anakin or vader given if it wasn't for him Luke would never have seen the end of the Emperor, though in fairness he may have been blown up, though no actualy I'll hold to my point. As much as I liked Tarkin I believe the Emperor would have had more balls to get the shutle and be out of there when he sensed danger..
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Mar 28th, 2001 02:42 AM |
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Ushgarak
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Careful, Zareil, they really like Luke around here...
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