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DarkAge
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Who's more ****ed up, Batman or the Joker?

I find the core dichotamy of the Batman story very interesting and would like to hear some other opinions on it.


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The Joker is definitely more screwed up. Batman is, but he has a vehicle to control his insanity that helps people instead of hurting them - and he does it consciously, once in a while thinking he should just give up. That means he has a control over it, whereas Joker is just a flat out nutcase.


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Batman gots that "I lost my folk they got capped I gotta training and be mo than just'sta man but a legend..get my some sidekicks..that wear bright color sh*t thang going on."

JOker just nuts..ya feel me


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munkiesarus
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The Joker.

There's no competition here, the Joker is just one messed up puppy.


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Batman has a purpose to his life and what he does.
The Joker is off his rocker and does whatever he pleases.


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Joker is just insane there is no reasoning with him. Plus he looks like a clown *shivers* .

Batman you can still reason with on somethings.


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DarkAge
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Batman has said some weird things though.

"My mind isn't a nice place to be."

"The fall to the ground takes over a minute, and despite what you've heard you're likely to stay conscious the whole way down. Thoughts like that keep me warm at night."

"I'm a rich kid with issues--lots of issues."

*Batman and Joker on a one-man jetpack*
Joker: You're crazy! Let me go or we'll both die!
Batman: Whatever it takes.


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"I realised that there was this incredibly benevolent force that wanted me to know that there was no reason to be afraid... ever."
"We don't have to win, we just have to fight."
"There is no way to peace, peace is the way."
"Be yourself. Those who mind don't matter, and those who matter don't mind."

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What Batman does is at best questionable but he has a reason behind his motive even if others dont agree with Bats he is understandable. The Joker is just random and does things without rhyme or reason. They are polar ooposites.............


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Both are.

Except Joker is more. Batman still manages to gain control over his insanity.

Well until recently if he does go to Arkham like some rumors say.

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Joker is destructive whereas Batman (Bruce Wayne) is more constructive. Total opposites and Batman's tragedy didn't drove him to the point of insanity. Whereas Joker's tragedy was a total disaster and led to countless deaths.


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Originally posted by NoFate007
The Joker is definitely more screwed up. Batman is, but he has a vehicle to control his insanity that helps people instead of hurting them - and he does it consciously, once in a while thinking he should just give up. That means he has a control over it, whereas Joker is just a flat out nutcase.


agreed.


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Batman in his mind he is doing some good. Joker is just messing with people because he can.

Another thing is Joker wanted to copywrite fish. If that tells you anything


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Copyright fish!?


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"I realised that there was this incredibly benevolent force that wanted me to know that there was no reason to be afraid... ever."
"We don't have to win, we just have to fight."
"There is no way to peace, peace is the way."
"Be yourself. Those who mind don't matter, and those who matter don't mind."

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I don't think someone that read the last will of the Joker can say anyone is more ****ed up than him.....


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What is it?


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A depressed billionaire is more ****ed up than a clown.


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joker ....more homicidle...its the ....stuff....lol

Attachment: harleyquinn-joker.jpg
This has been downloaded 26 time(s).

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Originally posted by DarkCrawler
What is it?


It's from "Joker: Last Laugh" Miniseries....
I only have the german Version so I will try to Translate:

Last Will and Testaent (erased)
To Do (underlined)

1.Bring Happiness
But how?
The Biggest smilie of the world?
Fill atlantis with Laugh gas?
Call Gordon. Ask for Sarah, hang up. Repeat

2.Marry Harley (erased) Kill Fc&%§ Harley
2.5 Call Answering Machine
3. Make succesor with Harley (erased). See above. Think aboot adoption
Or maybe a Sidekick/Trainee (Ask Batsy which Agency he uses for that)
4.Pay Taxes (erased)
Invest whole National Budget in Dot-Coms
4.3 Kill Lex. Twice
5.feed Cat (erased). Buy Cat
6. Ask Vatican if the "Sell Soul to Neron"-Deal still applies. If yes, buy lots of Skin Cream.

7. Untranslateable (sorry)

8. Send Flowers to Multi-Mans Mommy

9. Bring more happiness (erased "Happiness") HATE.
Arkham? Absolutely
Iron Heights? Boring. But Sure.
Strikers Island? Why Not.
Blackgate? Hey, give the poor fellows a reak.
9.9 Kill nosy Lois Lane. Supes snaps.

LAST LAUGH



It's something like that...crazy funny....especially the Pictures drawn on it....


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Tron
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The question is, is Joker more of a nut for killing people for the sheer hell of it? Or is Batman because he lets him continue to live just to repeat and kill some more. I know Joker's made this point in some way at some point too. Just some food for thought.wink


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