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Did Batman and Robin actually save comic book movies?

What I mean is, because of Batman and Robin and the horrible effect it had on the bankability and quality of comic book movies, it took nearly a half decade before another attempt was made at them. Studios now found that if they put some serious effort into the writing, directing, and acting of these movies, then they'd be successful, specifically with X-Men starting this golden era of comic book movies. IMO, as an ironic twist of fate, if it weren't for Batman and Robin, we might still be having poor comic book movies made.


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Not really.

The X-Men movies were made about 2-3 years after,and Blade 1 was made a year after Batman and Robin.

So no they had no effect on comic book movies really.Just because Warner Bros let Schumacher go nuts with the characters,doesn't mean every movie company is that stupid wink


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Could very well be. Batman Forever was popular. Comic fans can scream all they want about how bad it was, but a lot of people liked it. If Hollywood had stuck to the campiness of Batman Forever, instead of turning it up high enough to kill a man at ten paces in Batman and Robin, we'd still probably be getting movies like Batman Forever. After all, why try to improve something that's making money? That's the Hollywood attitude for you.


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That movie was god-awful.


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Its inevitable that there would be a terrible piece of garbage. Hey look at the run we had. X1, X2, Spider-Man 1 and 2....we knew a Catwoman had to come along lol.


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Catwoman... that's one movie I swore to never buy... I've got an old video someone once gave me of B&R, is there any good ways of destroying it, peops?


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Firecrackers, go to a zoo and feed it to some wild animal...


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Could very well be. Batman Forever was popular. Comic fans can scream all they want about how bad it was, but a lot of people liked it. If Hollywood had stuck to the campiness of Batman Forever, instead of turning it up high enough to kill a man at ten paces in Batman and Robin, we'd still probably be getting movies like Batman Forever. After all, why try to improve something that's making money? That's the Hollywood attitude for you.


How very true. Can you imagine what it could be like if Batman and Robin was a huge success, and then you had Christopher Nolan approach Warner Brothers to make the next Batman movie, and tell them he would make it serious, with an emphasis on the story and the acting. Could you blame Warner Brothers for probably laughing at his suggestion, when they see that a corny summer popcorn type superhero movie works for the audiences.


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Batman forever was a GOOD film, not a great film but nevertheless. B&R was just a step too far and so you cant really get much worse so the only way really is up! Then the era of great comic book movies began so B&R, i suppose was the start of great things, itself wasn't great it was the START of great films.


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Its inevitable that there would be a terrible piece of garbage. Hey look at the run we had. X1, X2, Spider-Man 1 and 2....we knew a Catwoman had to come along lol.


except spider-man and spider-man 2 are right up there with catwoman also as terrible pieces of garbage.


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Batman forever was a GOOD film, not a great film but nevertheless. B&R was just a step too far and so you cant really get much worse so the only way really is up! Then the era of great comic book movies began so B&R, i suppose was the start of great things, itself wasn't great it was the START of great films.


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except spider-man and spider-man 2 are right up there with catwoman also as terrible pieces of garbage.


You are really good at thinking your opinions are everyone elses.


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lol If the animals are in the zoo then they're not wild, now are they? stick out tongue


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I would not have the heart to feed Batman and Robin to a anmial.

I dont want to be arrested for Animial indangerment. I never ask one of these tigers or bears to eat it. It would just be 2 much for them to take.


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It would be cruelty to aniumals to even bring it near to them!


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Re: Did Batman and Robin actually save comic book movies?

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Originally posted by systemshock2
What I mean is, because of Batman and Robin and the horrible effect it had on the bankability and quality of comic book movies, it took nearly a half decade before another attempt was made at them. Studios now found that if they put some serious effort into the writing, directing, and acting of these movies, then they'd be successful, specifically with X-Men starting this golden era of comic book movies. IMO, as an ironic twist of fate, if it weren't for Batman and Robin, we might still be having poor comic book movies made.


I think it had the opposite or indeed no effect really, because in my opinion the comic book movies afterwards were not as terrible as B&R but neither were they any good. The Spider-Man films were badly done (again, in my opinon) also was X-Men. They looked too rushed for my liking.

Blade worked because I don't think they approached the movie from a comic book perspective and the director cut out any "glossiness" that might interfere and made a good action film out of it while telling a good story.


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I think it had the opposite or indeed no effect really, because in my opinion the comic book movies afterwards were not as terrible as B&R but neither were they any good. The Spider-Man films were badly done (again, in my opinon) also was X-Men. They looked too rushed for my liking.

Blade worked because I don't think they approached the movie from a comic book perspective and the director cut out any "glossiness" that might interfere and made a good action film out of it while telling a good story.


Everyone's entitled to their opinion but the spider-man and X-men films were brilliant, on a whole new level to Batman and Robin because they had all the qualities that made them great, unlike B+R which had no good qualities at all. The 'glossiness' is sometimes what is needed to mark the difference between a comic book movie and a regular action film. They are two different genres.


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The X Mens rock! BB is the greatest though...


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Re: Did Batman and Robin actually save comic book movies?

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What I mean is, because of Batman and Robin and the horrible effect it had on the bankability and quality of comic book movies, it took nearly a half decade before another attempt was made at them. Studios now found that if they put some serious effort into the writing, directing, and acting of these movies, then they'd be successful, specifically with X-Men starting this golden era of comic book movies. IMO, as an ironic twist of fate, if it weren't for Batman and Robin, we might still be having poor comic book movies made.


Let's use your logic here....but instead of Batman and Robin let's focus on Marvel Comics movies. There isn't a single ONE good movie from Marvel Comics. That's right NOT ONE! Thanks to the crapfest that Marvel has help create for the past few years...studios have taken notes on how NOT to make a crappy Comic book movie. Let's see here...

BladeTrilogy
X-men Trilogy
Spider Man Trilogy
Daredevil
Hulk
Elektra
Fantastic Four

Holy crap! Look closely...Marvel Comics has impose THREE Trilogy in less than a decade! Why are they so desperate to make so many movies? Then there is upcoming rumor Iron Man movie...and also Ghost Rider...and there is a rumor that there will be a sequel to Fantastic Four! Go Marvel, go!

Oh no, let's not pass the buck to Batman and Robin. Who is really killing the Comic Book movies?

Excelsior, True Believers!


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