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Batman Begins- Majorly Overlooked

dont yall think so??? and its all thanks to joel schumber or w/e his name is for making Batman Forever and Batman and Robin which were horrific & pretty much buried the batman franchise for good, and took something as phenomenal, emotionally gripping, and awesome as Batman Begins to just get over $200 million dollars worldwide for the movie which is like nothing nowadays, it shouldve made 3 times that. smh. im pissed. i hope every1 realizes that batman begins is really good, despite the fact that the two that came b4 it were horrible and didnt have ne1 coming back to ever wanna a see batman film EVER AGAIN. then a high-budget phenomenon like Begins comes after these two pieces of shyt, and ironically, gets shitted on instead. mad

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The two Schumacher films certainly did not help Begins, but the big reason it did not do well is it was not at all kid friendly. In general, its appeal was to diehard Batman fans more than anything else. It did strongly resonate strongly amongst the general public. The reason for that, I think, is that is was on the boring side. Though, I am sure you will disagree.

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^yea, i actually did think batman begins was a little boring as well, but still, it was good and i liked it by far the best than ne of the other batman films. it was believable, scary, emotional, great story line. it had everything. but still, all these girls i know that have seen it dont like it cuz they thought it was boring, or not tongue n cheeky like adam west batman or Batman Forever batman, which is the complete reason i like batman begins stick out tongue

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It was also the marketing. How I wished Batman Begins received the same hype and marketing that Superman Returns is currently receiving. It's a Batman film, usually huge summer event movies, but the marketing it got was like for some standard movie. How I missed the Batman Forever days, when you couldn't go anywhere without seeing a Question mark logo or a commercial and so on.


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Overlooked? No. Overrated? Yes. *dodges bricks*

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BB owns all. Braz I agree 100% but how can you say BB was boring? The Burton films had WWAY less action etc, that Batmobile chase was fantastic...


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Now you accuse other movies for the overlooking it got? Maybe a good part of the people who are watching movies are not Batman fans. It's sad, but it doesn't matter since we are getting another one.

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BB owns all. Braz I agree 100% but how can you say BB was boring? The Burton films had WWAY less action etc, that Batmobile chase was fantastic...



well, its just it kinda started out slow, in the beginning of it, the first hour was just mainly dialogue, which was cool, i liked that part of the movie, because it showed how Batman 'Began' and made it seem more believable instead of all these other hoaky batman films. but after that, when he became batman, the movie was like awesome from there wink

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It was a genuinely good film while most comic films arent... only a few appeal to a wider audience...


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BB had to start slow to ease the audience in gently to the film, without the pow wow style that it usually had otherwise it would have lacked the seriousness that i think Nolan wanted. Plus, the lack of hype was good too cos when a film is overly hyped up, you go see the film and are disappointed cos the film doesn't match your expectations, but BB didn't disappoint as it was brill for die hard fans anf the general public too.


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It was also the marketing. How I wished Batman Begins received the same hype and marketing that Superman Returns is currently receiving. It's a Batman film, usually huge summer event movies, but the marketing it got was like for some standard movie. How I missed the Batman Forever days, when you couldn't go anywhere without seeing a Question mark logo or a commercial and so on.


Yeah that was the major reason that it didnt do so well at the box office was because it was poorly marketed.Braz if you want to blame something for it not making near as much money as it should have,blame the marketing department,they did a HORRIFIC job of marketing the movie.Blame that and also the fact that there had already been four batman movies made prior to that.That being the case,the excitement and emthusiesem to see Batman Begins wasnt there like it was back in 89.people could pop in a tape to see a batman movie anytime they wanted to now unlike back in 89.But mostly its the marketing to blame for not being the blockbuster it should have been.Warner Brothers should have been marketing this movie the same way the marketing team did for Batman 89.Back then,they had posters and trailers in the movie theaters a year before the movie came out.Only the die hard fans knew that Batman Begins was coming out when it did,most movie goers did not know about it till it was already in the theaters.Matter of fact,I made a thread a year ago posting my concerns that Batman Begins was not going to perform well at the box office because it was being horribly marketed,it should have had the same mass marketing that Return of the sith had which was much better than the promotions that Begins had.It also should have been marketed like Batman 89 was.If it had been heavily promoted like those films were,it would have done much better at the box office no doubt.Hopefully the people at Warner Brothers have fired that marketing department for the next Batman sequel and have learned from their mistakes.


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Havent I read this postn only about a week ago?


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BB owns all. Braz I agree 100% but how can you say BB was boring? The Burton films had WWAY less action etc, that Batmobile chase was fantastic...


Yeah Braz,come on Batman Begins wasnt perfect,no comicbook movie ever does that.But one thing it hardly was,was boring.It had tons of action in it from the beginning like a batman movie should have.Thats one reason why I prefer Batman Forever over Batman 89 because like Knightfall said,you want to look for a batman movie thats extremely boring.look no further than Batman 89.That movie in the first hour in a half was a boring snoozefest.They just stood around talking practically the whole damn time."YAWN." dont let those girls or anyone else influence you that it was boring.


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Havent I read this postn only about a week ago?


yes but its not meant for YOUR eyes,duh,do you see WHO I am addressing the post to? Obviously it was only meant for him to read because HE hasnt read it. roll eyes (sarcastic)


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Batman begins overlooked? I dont think so. Overrated? nope. Far superior to the other crap films about batman? All the way.


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yes but its not meant for YOUR eyes,duh,do you see WHO I am addressing the post to? Obviously it was only meant for him to read because HE hasnt read it. roll eyes (sarcastic)
Then why not PM it if you want it private? After all, this is PUBLIC chat!


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Yeah Braz,come on Batman Begins wasnt perfect,no comicbook movie ever does that.But one thing it hardly was,was boring.It had tons of action in it from the beginning like a batman movie should have.Thats one reason why I prefer Batman Forever over Batman 89 because like Knightfall said,you want to look for a batman movie thats extremely boring.look no further than Batman 89.That movie in the first hour in a half was a boring snoozefest.They just stood around talking practically the whole damn time."YAWN." dont let those girls or anyone else influence you that it was boring.



idunno, there were some good parts like the Tumbler chase, him fighting the 4 ninjas, Ra's al Ghul ect. but like u said, a comic book movie cant be PERFECT and if they had to be, i would say this is the closest they've ever gotten along with the spiderman movies which i LOVED also. but..there were also boring parts, like i said alot of dialogue, but that was fine, i liked it. i liked every bit of it. wouldnt want them to change it for anything. i just hope in the Batman Begins sequel, batman doesnt fight so many guys all at once, thus creating sloppy fighting scenes which were pretty much incomprehensible.

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Spider-Man's are definitely anot perfect. The plot is hardly advanced... X-Men 1 and 2 are much better!


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its pretty bad when the lead actor (George Clooney: Batman and Robin) openly states "I destroyed the franchise". and whats with the nipples on the Batsuit? and the butt-shots of him and Robin suiting up?? that movie along with Batman Forever should be banned.


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