well the thread might not have been created but this discussion has been done to death,so I wish this thread hadnt been created,but it has been discussed to death on other threads like on the TIM BURTON IS A MORON WHEN IT COMES TO BATMAN.the BEST thread ever created here in this section.
I am grateful to Batman Begins and Nolan because Begins is the one and only true batman movie.The sad truth is that before Begins came out,ALL the other Batman movies sucked and were a disgrace to the comicbook.they should be burned.
Begins did everything right that its predecessors did wrong. Casting Bale-a guy who actually looked the part and had the right build,Batman wasn't the cowardly killer the other Batman movies made him into,Lots of action in it like a Batman movie SHOULD have,Batman 89 was a boring snoozefest,the first hour in a half they just stood around talking the whole damn time with just a few action scenes here and there,thats nuts for a batman film!!!! thats why its laughable when someone says that Begins was boring cause that critisem holds no water.It had lots of action in it from beginning to end.
They can criticise Begins for other things,but boring is ludicrise and absurd.The movie was all about Batman for once instead of being all about the villain and Batman being just a supporting character.Batman 89 should have been called The Joker since he had the majority of the screentime.That works for a TV show,but not for a movie,a movie is a special case. He had so much screentime that they never had time to explain Batmans origin or why he dressed up like a Bbat.It wasnt till Batman Forever that you understood that and when it was explained.Thats nuts,it SHOULD have been explained in Batman 89 cause thats the ORIGIN story for god sakes!!! Most importantly Batman didnt kill people or in cowardly ways and unlike Batman 89,was realistic and believeable. I liked it when that Black Commissioner said-Nobody takes the law into their own hands.nobody,not in my town. and he had the police hunting for batman.The other thing I liked about Beigns was Butrton had the right idea for Gotham being dark and gothic but he went overboard and made the city TOO dark to the point where you could not see what was going on half the time during the night scenes.Nolan had just the right touch though making it dark and gothic but not dark enough to where you couldnt see what was going on.His look for Gotham was awesome.
That was believeable because thats the way it is in the real world,that nobody is allowed to take the law into their own hands. I hate it when people say batman killed people in Batman Begins because that is so false its unreal. In the monestary,when that place blew up,itheres no evidence that anybody died,and its pretty safe to say no one did because they had much more time to get out of there than Bruce did.He stayed there fighting Ras while everybody else was fleeing.His life was just as much in danger as everybody elses was and even more so.If HE got out,the it would be absurd to say the others didnt get out. and sorry,not saving someone isnt murder.Huge difference in killing someone sending them falling to their death several stories and not saving someone. also Gordon caused him to die,not Batman.
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Last edited by Mr Parker on Jun 20th, 2008 at 09:04 PM
I am a Batman fanatic. I love all thing's Batman. I watch all the movies every other couple days. Batman '89 was great, the first of its kind. However, Batman Begins is in a league all by itself.
[SPOILER - highlight to read]: Only until july 18, then TDK will be the best
Yeah I can definitely see that Begins is by far the better made film but for me it lacked some of the entertainment value that 1989 had. My perfect Batman film would be a blending of the two films.
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Begins was the better of the two because it just stuck to the story more, the actors were ten times better in begins, bale actual cared about being batman and gained muscle and had to lose muscle, and this one was actual about batman not like 89 witch should have been called the joker because that's who was the star of the film
I see where you're coming from...it's like the difference between Grease and American Graffiti. One is obviously the better film even if some find the other more entertaining.
I think now that TDK doesn't have SO much plot to explain, it should have loads more entertainment value for you...not in the painting in an arty gallery whilst dancing around to Prince kinda way, but in a good way.
The Joker got a lot of screentime but he wasn't the star of the film IMO and I never thought so. Though I did quite enjoy seeing his mayhem unfold in such detail
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I think the Dark Knight is going to be mostly very serious and dark. I still look forward to it though and I do hope it is more rewatchable than Begins is to me.
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true dat.btw,not going to post anymore on that HORRIBLE REINVENTION thread since I know that thread was just resurrected by a friend of Batman Returns,the thread starter of that thread.their both trolls posting only to get reactions out of people, which is why you should not have taken the bait and posted there Space Monkey.But since you did,wanted to say that was a great post,very well said and spoken there.
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Last edited by Mr Parker on Jun 25th, 2008 at 08:32 PM
sure thing.Since that was such a great post,I am going to post it here on THIS thread as well since like i said Im through posting on that one.I figure you wont mind.
Its not even close.The Burton Batman was ok,Batman Returns was pretty bad.The best part of that first one was Jack as The Joker.Returns had nothing redeeming other than Michelle Pfeiffer in spandex.Batman Begins made Batman a human being and put something INSIDE the batsuit,however ugly you might think it is.Begins was just that,The Beginning of a story,a character and a series.The next one,Dark Knight,will blow away any other Batman thanks to the build-up from Batman Begins.
The ONLY thing I would change about this post if I was posting it Space Monkey is the part on Jack as Joker being the best part of the first one.Jack was just being Jack in that movie most the time,where from all reports that have been reported about Ledger is that he really embodied the character and became that character.The Only thing I would change if posting that is that Kim Basinger was the best part of the first one and the ONLY good thing about that movie.
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Batman 89 or Batman Begins
Jun 19th, 2008 10:07 PM
also Gordon caused him to die,not Batman.
that was one of the points I brought up.
