In previous batman films Batman (1989), Batman returns and batman forever, batman is the reason behind quite a few deaths, Joker he caused to fall to his death, I dunno whether this was his intention, in batman returns he kills some of the penquins henchmen and in batman forever he was the reason two face died and he didn't even try to save him, in batman and robin I can't remember if batman killed or not. But anyways why was batman going around killing? I mean thats just not batman, I dunno if other people liked this batman but c'mon...thats just not batman I mean was there any reason the guys behind these movies decided to have batman killing...was it meant to make us think 'oh yay the bad guys dead'?
The movies were partially based on Frank Miller's work. While Frank Miller's Batman isn't as big a killer as some people, he's not exactly lenient either.
the correct answer is that batman in the old films was cooler then he is in the new films and the comics. superheroes that put the same criminal in jail over and over and over again even though he kills people= failure
There's already a thread about this, specifically comparing Batman's body count to Daredevil's.
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Thats comic DD and batman, plus this is discussing batman killing in the movies which is something he doesn't do or rarely does, this isn't about DD this is about batman
So are you sayin' those said superheroes should just be heartless killing machines when it comes to their enemies? That would make 'em no better than the same criminals they fought to lock up.
Just a matter of opinion. Some people obviously prefer the kind of heroes that choose not to slay unless in self-defense, while others like the 'killing protagonists' more-so.
Yeah. It made Bale's Batman look like a hypocrite if nothing else, especially with the way he went on before about how nothing is beyond saving.
That's no different actually.
Also sometime superhero should kill imo. Batman should've killed Joker a long time ago instead he even saved him a few times. Tehn again, Joker could've killed him many time in the past.
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It would have been more CONVINIENT for Batman to have killed the Joker. But should he have? Thats what many villains do, kill out of convinience. Batman is obviously not a villain.
Batman's will makes him a better character imo than heroes that just go around killing. The Joker even WANTS Batman to kill him on occassion. Joker has been known to egg Batman on. What kind of hero would Batman be if he succumbed and gave his greatest adversary what he wanted?
I know Joker would be happy to die by Batman's hand, that'd only prove his point. But the whole not killing bad guys out of principal only works in comicbooks. Im really respect heros like Spider-man who's trying to convince his teammates not to kill his greatest enemy, heck I wish I could be that noble, but Joker's killed how many people? Hundreds? Thousands? And he keeps escaping every time, if that was the case in the real life it would've been the right thing for Bats to kill him to prevent murders in the future, dont you think so?
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Bats believes he has no right to decide who lives and who dies. The Justice System (Though admittedly corrupt) is the one who should end the Joker's life. I'm pretty sure Batman believes that whatever his adversary deserves is up to the Judge to decide. And to be honest, I agree with him. If I were in Batman's boots, I would'nt feel that I had the right to decide who lives and who dies.
Now the real question is why Joker hasnt been executed yet. (Aside from the obvious answer being the character's all around importance to the mythos and his popularity.)
You're a good person then. Im pretty sure I would've killed him when he killed Jason Todd.
And he doesnt get executed because he's crazy. They do not execute mentally ill people. Also, there was a book where Joker got a death sentence ironically for a murder he didn't commit. But Batman cought the real killer before they carried out the execution. I guess if that was the movie Batman he would've waited for Joker to get killed before solving the murder.
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ROFLcopter. Whats the name of that book? It sounds like an interesting read.
I respect your opinion. Plenty of people would've have massacred the Joker if they were in Batman's position. I cant imagine killing anyone, and I realize that I would be no different from the Joker had I killed him. Thus I can relate to Batman's non-lethal war on crime.
Who does Batman kill in the comics? Lets stay keep it to intentional murders please.
Also the franchise got rebooted because Batman and Robin was such a terrible bomb, not because of anything that went against the mythos. Otherwise the franchise would have been rebooted in 89.
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I mean was there any reason the guys behind these movies decided to have batman killing...was it meant to make us think 'oh yay the bad guys dead'?
Nov 2nd, 2009 09:50 PM
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