I think that "Judgement Day" or The day the machines rise(the Terminator future) will happen on June 6, 2006 (06/06/06) or September 9, 2009 (09/09/09)
Speaking of which, it's pretty interesting that Sarah knows the exact date it happens despite the fact that Reese never tells her and she has no contact with the future until the Terminator shows up in T2. I also like how the "no fate" poem was totally changed between movies and we weren't supposed to notice this.
Yep, Reese says: "Thank you Sarah for your courage through the dark years. I can't help you with what you must soon face except to say the future is not set. You must be stronger then you imagine you can be. You must survive or I will never exist.
John Connor in T2 says: "The future is not set; there's no fate but what we make for ourselves."
In Terminator 3 it's: "The future has not been written."
Admittingly the final script version of the T1 poem is much more similar to the T2 version, but even that is still slightly different, and if Reese is the one that told Sarah and Sarah told John, then John should still know the T1 version and not the modified version.
Well considering the story was only told once, it wudnt be easy for Sarah and likewise John to remember the exact thing word for word. Its bound to chop and change a little.
The No Fate thing annoys you but it doesn't annoy you that he called himself a T-101 instead of a T800 CSM-101, and you don't think its worse that they said he was 13 in T3 instead of 10? That's just plain stupidity and laziness
The "no fate" poem actually has some bearing on the story. John Connor's age is just an irrelelvant number. We know he was concieved in T1, a preteen in T2 and a young adult in T3. The exact numbers aren't important to me. Sarah miraculously knowing the exact date of Judgment Day and the poem memorized by Reese being corrupted are much more important to the story, as the poem's modification caused the whole second half of Terminator 2: the whole Dyson/Cyberdyne sub-plot.
As for the T-101? Who cares? Cameron himself already thouroughly destroyed the Terminator's naming system when he retconned in T2. Originally the endoskeleton was the CSM-101 and the 800-series would be a 101 skeleton with real skin and a 600-series would be a 101 skeleton (presumably) with rubber skin. In T2 he changes the 800 series to describe the endoskeleton and then makes 101 the skin number. In T3 Mostow combines T800 with CSM/CRS-101 to get T-101. Big deal. Not only does it have nothing to do with the plot, but Cameron himself already dorked it up to begin with.
You want more? Reese correctly calls the Terminator a "Cyberdyne Systems Model One-Zero-One." The Terminator calls himself a "Cyberdyne Systems Model One-Oh-One." "Oh" is a letter as in "O." So is the Terminator a CSM-1O1? No. The Terminator used a slang, and technically incorrect, pronounciation of "zero" when describing himself. He shouldn't do so when his chip has not been switched to R/W yet and is still in ROM mode.
So yeah, I'm not too picky about the Terminator's model number when it's already been a bit muddled, and it has very little bearing on the story and the action. It seems to me that people bring these things up because T2 didn't measure up and they are trying to explain how. I can tell you this, it doesn't have to do with minor errors, it has to do with lack of vision on the part of the director, the screenplay writer and the actors.
Last edited by chriscaffee on Jul 9th, 2005 at 04:28 PM
The Judgement Day date (06/06/06) is coming up next month and I'm going to stay in a cabin(my girlfriend and I bought) in the mountains near me. We will be staying there all day June 6, 2006 and wait and see what happens.
Benhacker
P.S. : The cabin has a bomb shelter under it.
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I'm back and the Judgement Day date (06/06/06) didn't happen, I glad it didn't happen, but September 09, 2009(09/09/09) is coming up in 4 years and then We will be staying there all day September 09, 2009 and wait and see what happens.
Benhacker
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The cabin(my girlfriend and I bought) in the mountains near me. It has a three floor underground fallout shelter under it. There is an Air pump, Air Purafication/filter plant, water filter, water pump, water tank with 8000 gallons in it and water heater(boiler) on the 3rd floor. On the second floor is a greenhouse and on the first floor there is the Communications room that has a Faraday box(is simply a metal box designed to divert and soak up the Electromagnetic Pulse(EMP). If the object placed in the box is insulated from the inside surface of the box, it will not be effected by the EMP travelling around the outside metal surface of the box.) with a CB radio, hardened computer, Geiger Counter, VHF radio and a Satellite phone in it. There is also a bedroom, a kitchen and an armory on the first floor.
Benhacker
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