I wanted to share this with others, and get your take on it. I also want to see if there's anyone else that feels the same way about it that I do.
Ok, first let me say that I've seen a lot of horror movies, so I'm not speaking out of my ass when I say this. When I first saw Saw, I felt liberated; as a horror movie fan, it was a liberating experience. It was after I first saw it that I realized just how stylized and childish in horror concepts that a lot of the old horror movies are. Movies like The Shining, The Exorcist--I love these movies and think that The Shining is better than Saw, but their concepts seem so stylized as far as horror goes. It's the "ghost" the "supernatural monster" This is a lot of what the older horor movies were about.
When viewing Saw, what I witnessed was real horror. No monsters, no ghosts. No safe for hollywood act, just raw horror that was right in my face. I also felt like the antagonist, Jigsaw, was like a real person. I've can't remember feeling that from any of the older horror movies. I couldn't often relate to the bad guy, and so he seemed less frighting to me, less out of reach with reality. Don't get me wrong, supernatural can be good, but when it's done in such a high-blown manner, it losses its touch.
Was I drunk when watching Saw, or do some of you feel the same way about it compared to some of the older horror movies?
When I first seen Saw, I thought it was a sloppy attept at Seven.
Overrated, over-hyped, and very (to include a word you used) childish.
The screenplay must've been written over a blade session, because the "twists" are about as lame and predicatable as your girlfriend being a **** deep down.
Saw is a disgrace to horror.
Great maestros like Fulci would laugh at that garbage.
I hope everyone ever involved in Saw or any of its sequels/prequels, or whatever is to come, DIES. **** them all.
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Wow...When I first saw Saw...which was against my will...my sister made me watch it...I really didn't think it was anything special...still don't actually...It just didn't interst me and it's one of the reasons I never saw the sequels and never will...just not my thing...and it's incredibly over rated
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No you were not drunk and don't mind these others who think they are true horror experts. But yes seeing something as real and visceral as Saw could potentially be in real life (something that is rare in horror movies, especially in ages past)... Its the same way with this new movie Turistas coming out, not very hard for something like this to happen. All it takes is a little cunning and little force... Come to think of it, Running Scared (despite the name) could possibly be considered a horror movie especially two-thirds through it and you get into some really deep, dark, sinister stuff that actually happens in the real world... That is scary. Most of the horror movies of the past have no effect on today's generation. My little brother can attest to that, he's been through Nightmare, Halloween, Friday the 13th, and several others, and ... well he almost fell asleep during the 1st (1978 version, i think) TCM, not mention laughing so hard at the clips of Lucio, Argento, italian horror, that he nearly crapped himself!
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Because the acting and writing blows and the movie over all just sucked wouldn’t recommend it to anyone. But then again most horror movie are designed to get money from teenagers so in that since it was a huge success.
I think the writing was pretty good. The situation that those two were put in was pretty clever. And the way that the story was able to keep you guessing about whom jigsaw was was good writing. The whole premise of the movie is to deliver a twist at the end. If it the writing was bad, I think more people would have been able to figure out who Jigsaw was.
no offence, but shut up.
good writing? it seemed like a half-assed attempt like the writers got a block and then just said "heyyyyyy, what if the guy laying in the middle of the room was him all along..... yeeeeeahhhhhhhh".
horrible, horrible......
if that is writing genius, then what i just wrote surpasses shakespeare.
The point of this thread wasn't to debate about the movies writing; I was just trying to get people's takes on the horror element of it; if they felt the movie was more so of a real life horror than older horror movies. I'm sorry your attention span is so short that you couldn't read the first post to see that.
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LMAO...I'm part of the Anti-SAW KMC-ers...The movie just wasn't all that people hype it up to be...and we're not all hostile...maybe you're just overly sensitive...would you like a kiss for your boo boo?
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Not hostile. "You must have been 14, 15 while watching this movie."
"Shut up."
Yeah, that's not hostile. I'm not sensitive at all; I just find the childish comments on here to be amazingly stupid. If you don't likea movie fine. But don't come in here saying things like "shut up" and "you must have been 14 or 15 while watching the movie" just because you don't agree with someone's opinion. If anything, that post proves your mental age.
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Wow, im amazed to see people who seem to hate the Saw movies so much. It was no where near an attempt at Seven or anywhere close, killing style was a resemblence, that was all. In saw the victims were chosen because the killer who appreciated life, hated those who did not and attempted to show them that there life was worth living, granted he did it in a sadistic manner, still not the point.
I see Saw as a revolution among Horror movies, it brought to the masses and brought it well, a Horror movie. Something people could fear walking out of a theatre because well unlike the supernatural killers of the past, Jigsaw was real, and in todays world it could happen. It finally brought a great genre of movies away from the cheesy, lets try to be humerous, low budget flicks weve grown up with.
Now dont get started on the fact of bad writing, BADWRITING? These three movies tie together and twist into one another better than any triology ive seen. Reverting back to previous movies and keeping the story line in check. Did a damn better job than anything through the 1970's-2000.
The deaths were creative, unique. He wasnt running around with a knife, or being posessed, or a ghost, etc. Gore was plenty. Pushing your way through barbwire, cutting a live person open to get a key, putting your hand into acid, being thrown into a pit of needles, cutting your own foot off. Original. The deaths alone put Saw above every horror movie to date, the story line and how well the plot and everyone ties in together is beautiful.
Like I said for horror movies it was a Revolution, got them some respect(FINALLY!) A great story line, great actng by horror standards, great deaths, the story line staying consistant, and the killer always being on top due to human emotions. It made a great movie and a better triology. Period.
Were not hostile...we just know our rat shit from rice crispies.
I also think it speaks volumes that the majority of Pro Saw members of KMC rarely contribute to the Horror Forum.
And Vim and TURISTAS
it just sounds like a HOSTEL rip off set in Brazil,
how original...another bunch of teenagers being picked off one by one by a psycho.
and i for one dont give a **** what the less movie savy of todays generation think of Fulci,Argento and pre 90s horror if they think SAW and Wrong Turn are the sh!t their opinions on horror as a genre dont matter.
And, in his spirit of not caring what you Saw groupies think of the horror genre, I do not care what you all think of my attitude towards the human race in general. Nothing said in this thread has scarred my way of thinking.
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First off,I don't recall having said "You must have been 14, 15 while watching this movie." or "Shut up"...oh,wait,you know why?BECAUSE I DIDN"T...That's fine that you think SAW is like this big horror masterpeice (which I totally do not agree with) but not everyone on here has that same opinion...That's what the forum's for...for everyone on here to express their opinion...And SAW is hardly part of a horror revolution and maybe the 3 movies stories blend together so well is because they keep going back and seeing what stupid thing they can think up to tie them together...They're probably shouldn't have even been a sequel to SAW but of course it's all about the money in this industry and SAW is a cash cow...So in closing I still think SAW is crap.
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