And if someone says Elton John or Tori Amos I will punch myself in the face pretending it was you because as much as I love both of them they are both C class pianists.
She really is compared to anyone of these guys. I really like her and prefer her to any of them, but she is not anyway near technically as good. She couldn't play at half the speed, nor does she have the handspan, nor does she have the perfection of any of them.
Oh, and I meant to say to post your favorite too. My favorite is Tori Amos for whatever genre I consider her (haven't quite decided and I hate calling people Alternative) and my favorite rock keyboardist is Jon Lord of Deep Purple.
Nellinator, you do realized Tori's played the piano with the piano strings. If you think that's C-Class I suggest you reconsider your judgment. My favorite (I won't even suggest he's the best) is Ben Folds. Great songwriter and he has such great prowess towards the piano. He really knows how to work a show as well.
She pushes B-class at times, however I maintain that she is C-class. Amos, despite AC's claims is less technically talented than a whole lot of people. C-class is not bad, in fact it is really good, but there are hundreds of people better than her. If anyone argues that she is even top ten they obviously haven't seen or heard the people I mentioned.
I'm still trying to work out what "A-class something" rhymes with 'pianist'...
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It doesn't matter how many people she ISN'T better than, what matters is how many people she IS better than, and technically...she's an excellent pianist. She's technically excellent.
I didn't say there wasn't any people better, I simply said you're not giving her enough credit.
She is technically good, not excellent. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PsLpMDUJAfM
This 89 year old man is technically WAY more technically adept. Watch at the 1:03 minute and 3:30 minute marks so you don't have to watch the whole thing. This is considered technically very good, not excellent as he is too old to play with the excellence he once had. Tori Amos is not anywhere near this Rubinstein's league.
I ran out of options, I was just trying to give some of my ideas. I'd say Bill Evans is the best out of the ones you mentioned. I personally hold Art Tatum to be the greatest jazz pianist to ever live and one of the two best ever with Rubinstein. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uzj6Q61h3oA
Around the 34 second mark he is just amazing and the end is even better.
Why do you keep retorting with "But she isn't better than...", or "This man is way technically better."?
That's not the point I'm making. I'm not saying she's the best, I'm saying she's technically brilliant, not that she's the best or that there are none better.
She is not technically brilliant if she can't play at the speed and difficulty that several hundred people can play at. Therefore, she is technically good, but not brilliant. Tori Amos is interesting emotionally and lyrically and a very good songwriter, but she is not an amazing piano player that shocks me with skill, especially when I can play everything she has ever done, but don't even bother trying the arrangements the people I mentioned would do. This is like saying that Billie Joe is technically brilliant at guitar when that is simply not true when technical brilliance is defined by people like Malmsteen.
What kind of retard logic is that? That's like saying someone who runs the 100mtrs sprint in 10 seconds isn't really fast just because people can run it in 9.
It doesn't matter if she shocks you with skill or not, she's a technically brilliant player, this doesn't change just because there are people more technically adept than her.
"She is not technically brilliant if she can't play at the speed and difficulty that several hundred people can play at. ".
Never mind the fact that she can play better than way more than several hundred people, there's probably millions of people she is better than, millions. Yet, somehow, she isn't technically brilliant because there are better people.
It just doesn't make sense.
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