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Are the Sith really Evil? Honestly
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sanatayesse
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Are the Sith really Evil? Honestly

From what I've been reading on the novels and comics, Palpatine's point of view sounds very convincing in that Jedi are taught that sith are evil and its probably the same thing for the sith. I think George Lucas mentioned something that the sith were like the first civilization who were present, until the jedi came and wiped them out. I mean I know the sith ways seem akward like: master and apprentice trying to kill eachother off, but I feel that is just what they do in the nature and that's why they are very powerful. Remember the quote from episode 3 trailer: "the darkside of the force is a pathway to many abilities some consider to be unnatural". In the end there will always be two opposite disctinct sides with opposite points of view and maybe that's why palpatine is so good in luring Ankakin to join him. Whenever I hear the word dark side, I always got the idea that no one really knows where that side leads(kinda like the dark ages) and the jedi perceive it as evil. Anyhow, I hope this kinda makes people think....PEACE!!

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TheForceSupreme
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The Sith are evil in that they kill everyone who stands in thei way..guilty or not. They care for nothing and no one but themselves.

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evil[1,adjective]evil[2,noun]evil eyeevil-mindedking's evil

Main Entry: 1evil
Pronunciation: 'E-v&l, British often and US also 'E-(")vil
Function: adjective
Inflected Form(s): evil·er or evil·ler; evil·est or evil·lest
Etymology: Middle English, from Old English yfel; akin to Old High German ubil evil
1 a : morally reprehensible : SINFUL, WICKED <an evil impulse> b : arising from actual or imputed bad character or conduct <a man of evil reputation>
2 a archaic : INFERIOR b : causing discomfort or repulsion : OFFENSIVE <an evil odor> c : DISAGREEABLE <woke late and in an evil temper>
3 a : causing harm : PERNICIOUS <the evil institution of slavery> b : marked by misfortune : UNLUCKY

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oddjob02
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the SIth are evil in that the focus of a Sith is nothing but slef. Not in a Jedi way of patience and peace, but emotional frenzy and power. A jedi seeks no grand praise. Sith want to rule and commad, have no one challenge their say. In that way they are eviel.

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well, the premise of the entire star wars trilogies is good vs evil. mr. lucas himself has said this on many occasions. although ur point makes some sense, its the same thing as someone saying that hitler is not really a bad person, he just didn't like the jews, where as other people did, so there just opposing views. but quite obviously hitler was the bad person, because well its obvious. you are kinda getting into an epistemological question here on what is really morally right. obviously enslaving the galaxy and wanting to kill everyone that gets in your way is not good.


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Echuu
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sith are evil- palps was a freaky maniac wanting to control the galaxy- thats pretty evil to me; plus the empire oppressed other people so much i.e. taking slaves or making garrisons on different worlds; not to mention the fact that they were rascist and didn't allow aliens in their army

weren't the jedi first? I thought the sith came after of the jedi and there was so many they had the jedi/sith war and the sith mostly died....

that is EU of course but o well


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((The_Anomaly))
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well, all the sith stuff is EU, and it cant be taken 100% literally...so we really dont know who was first. according to the EU the sith were after the jedi, well the sith order anyways. there was a species of people called the sith, and the current sith are not really sith they just follow those ways. but the lightsaber weilding sith were used to came from a few jedi who embraced the darkside a really long time before Eps. I


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Echuu
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yeah thought so

it'd be nice if george would clear that up for us


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Darth Plagueis
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Come-on!! The DEATH Star???? Jedi don't blow planets up, killing billions of innocents......that is PURE evil!


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TheForceSupreme
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quote: (post)
Originally posted by Darth Plagueis
Come-on!! The DEATH Star???? Jedi don't blow planets up, killing billions of innocents......that is PURE evil!


LOLZ...WORD! laughing

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WanderingDroid
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This seems to be more like EU material.

Moving to EU forum....


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Force Adept
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Well the simple fact that Lucas refers to Palpatine as the Devil, should give you a little insight on whether he's evil or not.

Sith follow emotions such as fear, hate, and have very aggresive tendencies, whereas the Jedi are more just guardians of peace. Sith do not help peace in any way, so them being wiped out might have something to do with that.

Really, I can't remember the last time a Jedi enslaved a race, say oh, the Wookies. smile


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Yup, easy answer. GL says yes, end of story. Any attempt to insert moral gray areas into Star Wars is to miss the point of the films.


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SnakeEyes
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Let me clarify:

Sith=Bad Guys
Jedi= Good Guys


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AragonIsKing
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no, they're just confused

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mephistodesigns
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there are actually grey areas in star wars, in the case of Anakin. Because Luke brings him back, so some evil can become good again. That's a grey area. Its the only grey area, but one none the less. But yeah, the Sith are clearly evil. That's why they get Revenge and the Jedi get to Return....give it a minute, let it breath, it'll make sense. Yeah I know, its still a stupid joke. but its true. He didn't call ROTJ Revenge of the Jedi because that's not what they're about. The Revenge of the Sith is more suitable for Sith because they're EVILLLLLLL!


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LanceWindu
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Reading this thread reminds me of the Death Star 2 discussion in Clerks.

The Rebels killed a whole bunch of innocent construction workers, they are no better than the Sith.


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mephistodesigns
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somebody joked in TOYFARE magazine about Anakin kills people and he's evil, but Luke being justified in killing all those guys in Jabba's skiffs because they were ugly. Good stuff!

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Originally posted by mephistodesigns
somebody joked in TOYFARE magazine about Anakin kills people and he's evil, but Luke being justified in killing all those guys in Jabba's skiffs because they were ugly. Good stuff!

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That's right, he didn't kill the skiff guards. More like put them out of their misery.


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wat misery?
see how sexy they were?
they must have had all the chicks


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Force Adept
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Grey area my ass. He was good (white).... then he was bad (black) .......(this was for awhile)........Then he was good again (white). It's as simple as black and white. What you're trying to do is combine all his crap, good and bad. Timelines, fortunately don't work like that. They don't fold over on themselves to make a pretty new picture or story, they go in a straightforward line.


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