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Jedi and Sith - Bad and Good.
Jedi:
Jedis are willing to use their force for defense and goodness for others and they seem to take the self-proclaimed role as the Good guy Police Team of Star Wars, but they're sheer ability to use the force and their knowledge for defense has been their downfall. They don't expose the full potential of the force because they think it's dangerous, and that is why so many Jedi turn Dark because the Jedi think "Hey, the Jedi don't have everything to meet my requirments, so i'll go to darkside to complete the circle". The Jedi hide too many things from their students - including essential force power and knowledge and that's the Jedi Weakness. But their ability to stay pure and serene is what their power is built on.
The Jedi are self-proclaimed Philosophers that need to reflect on their own flaws before playing the Peacekeeper role in the Galaxy.
Sith:
The Sith use their power to exercise their students to become increasingly offensive and aggresive. They train their brotheren to bend the force to satisfy their needs. Their major flaw would be the fact that they guide their students far too fast to become powerful. If you don't know what i am speaking of, heres and example. There is alot of Dark Lords who should still be apprentices. They don't train hard enough because their Egotism has chewed and eaten at them for far too long. And they too are also missing an essential part in the force, being the defensive knowledge and force that isn't trained apon their students.
The Sith are Selfish and mouthy thugs that need to balance their skills and train longer.
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i agree strongly on both matters. that is why i am comfortable with the revelation that the dark side of the Force does not exist... there is only the dark side of a person's heart. personally i prefer the New Jedi Order to the sith or Jedi because i now see them as moving away from light and dark and into the grey area, finally giving themselves wholly over to the Force as Jacen did at the end of the Unifying Force
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Exactly! The Dark side = Bad Jedi and The Sith = Copycats.
If you don't understand the copycat part, i will explain.
The True Sith Species died out long ago. The new Sith are just wannabes, to be blunt.
Maybe if the freakin' Jedi and Sith learned to unify their powers and their differences together, they could complete the circle and create a new line of warriors and Jedi so powerful, that they could dominate ANYTHING.
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The hell they are! Maybe if they weren't too busy arguing politics with each other and trying to act like the master philosophers of the galaxy they would get stuff done.
The Jedi are extremely foolish and i wont explain it again.
So are the Dark side.
They both have knowledge that each side is missing.
Example: The Jedi are the white side of the ying yang and the Sith are the black, you put them together and you have a completed ying yang.... And who said it's grey? You think they are gonna run around the galaxy being called the "Grey ones" or something? C'mon!
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no one said the Jedi weren't good. of course they are. good is what they stand for. what we're discussing in the method by which they use the force and also how they go about things--like not condoning relationships with family or lovers, which in anakins case was both his making of a Jedi and his downfall. see?
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They aren't foolish at all. This indicates a total misunderstanding of what goes on in the films.
GL has made it very clear that the Jedi are good guys. There is no way in which the Sith are simply an alternative pieve of knowledge for them- the Sith are jusat black hat evildoers. As simple as that.
And what is all this playing p[oliutics bullshit? The Jedi are a police force, they beling inside any politrical system, but when were they ever acting like Senators in the films?
This is all so much nonsense. The Jedi were doing the absolute best they could in a crumbling Republic.
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If the Jedi and Sith united, they would be invincible. It doesn't matter whether the Jedi are good and the Sith are bad, the point is that if they stopped fighting and worked out their differences, they could join together and create some super jedi. This Jedi could use both Jedi/Sith powers and have any saber color too! And then they could start dominating the galaxy. Then the movies would be about everyone doing their best to try to help or stop these ultimate jedi! hehehe! And trust me when i say that it isn't simple to say that the sith are downright dirty. Any jedi can turn bad, which anakin prooves, and any dark jedi can turn good, which darth vader prooves, so it can't be that simple, can it?
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rubbish! it the jedi and the sith were to join then the jedi would NEVER try to dominate the galaxy--which is what the main difference is between them. i agree about accepting the use of both sides of the Force's spectrum, though. that is basically what the NJO is getting at, especially in traitor and the unifying force. (unifying meaning everything together including force powers) the only 'DARK SIDE' is what is in each persons heart.
as the saying goes, "everyone has the power to do great good, or terrible evil"
its thanks to the 'dark side' that the republic crumbled. palpatine just wanted tto control all the time. he didn't give a shit about any1 else... even Vader was dispensible to him. the republic could have survived if not for palpatine... and what did the empire do? they became slavers! you can't tell me that that was in the best interest of the galaxy, surely?
SWFreak, I agree completely. People blame the Jedi for being too dogmatic and busy with their rules to truly care or do anything for the Republic or the people. What bullshit. The Jedi didn't take over the Republic and promote human domination. Palpatine's ruthless ambition doomed the Republic. Not the Jedi.
Quite frankly, I don't care. I admire Palpatine's reuthlessness and power. However, to blame the fall of the Old Republic on anyone besides him is an insult to his memory.
Jedi and Sith should rule the galaxy. Away with this bureaucracy! Wasn't that what initially damned the New Republic when the Vong came? If only the Jedi had left their stupid master in the dust, assumed control and become a 100 Darth Vaders, then there could've been order. Brutal order, but it would come as the salvation of the billions who died in that war.
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The Jedi sat around with their dicks in their hands the whole time. Maybe if they granted Anakin the rank he deserved, they wouldn't have had Vader to run around and kill a few grand of people. Anakin has his opinion, and the Jedi decide that he is too dangerous to gain a rank. Dumbshits!
The reason Anakin didn't get a rank is because he was sick of the Politics that the Jedi were throwing at everyone. They needed to get off their ass and they didn't, but when they decided to, it was already too late. *******.
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The jedi are peace loving idiots. they can't kill their prisioners because "no one deserves death". if they would have kiled palpatine rather than saying:" mister sith lord sir? your under arrest, would you please give yourself up peacefully?" they should have rushed in there and said:" DIE, DUMBASS!!!" and then there wouldn't have been an empire or anything!
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That doesn't change how correct you are. If the Jedi just ****in threw all of their sabers at Sidious instead of kissing his shribbled ass, then there would be no problem at all.
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yes but in the novel palpatine wanted to make it look like the jedi were the bad guys by recording events leading up to the fight and making it seem like he was an innocent bystander. he then plays this sound recording to the sentate. if they had charge in with sabres blazing there would be every reason for the senate to support him, there would be no rebels coz no1 would believe that the jedi were trying to save the republic. plus there would be no story coz there would be no life changing decision for anakin to make.
also the jedi may have given anakin the rank had they decided that palpatine wasn't using him as a pawn. palpatine new this and it helped him to assure anakin that the jedi were against him. the jedi didn't have a problem with anakin, it was just palpatine. mace even agreed to anakins wishes to arrest palpatine rather than kill him. mace was going to arrest him, but when it became clear he couldn't thats when he had to try and kill him