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kamhal
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Dueling curiosities

Did you notice that:

- Sidious, the suppose ultimate sith lord, can't just win a lightsaber duel in the movies? He lost against windu and yoda actually disarms him during the duel. Hmm...
- Yoda is suppose to be better then windu, THE grand master. Yet he couldn't beat Sidious while windu actually did it.
- Anakin is so good that owns dooku quite fast. Yet, he can't beat obi-wan, who was showed inferior to dooku and beat by him in a quite humiliating way both of their fights.
- Kit fisto destroyed 2 magna guards in what, 2 swipes? Yet anakin and obi-wan need more time destroy just 1 of them, YET kit fisto was killed by sidious with 3 swipes...

Can you remember more of these?
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Re: Dueling curiosities

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Originally posted by kamhal
Did you notice that:

- Sidious, the suppose ultimate sith lord, can't just win a lightsaber duel in the movies? He lost against windu and yoda actually disarms him during the duel. Hmm...
- Yoda is suppose to be better then windu, THE grand master. Yet he couldn't beat Sidious while windu actually did it.
- Anakin is so good that owns dooku quite fast. Yet, he can't beat obi-wan, who was showed inferior to dooku and beat by him in a quite humiliating way both of their fights.
- Kit fisto destroyed 2 magna guards in what, 2 swipes? Yet anakin and obi-wan need more time destroy just 1 of them, YET kit fisto was killed by sidious with 3 swipes...

Can you remember more of these?


- They were totally different situations and there are several reasons as to why what happened, happened.

- Windu defeated Sidious only because he used Vapaad against him. Plus, he had Shatterpoint, as well.

- I believe that is because Kenobi knows Anakin from head to toe, he knows his movements, powers, weaknesses, advantages, disadvantages, saber styles, etc etc... while Dooku understimated him [though, if he had not understimated him, he would've lost anyway, so] knowing almost nothing about his powers & skills.

-That's also quite weird, but I didn't know about that. Where do you saw/read about it?


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Re: Dueling curiosities

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Originally posted by kamhal
Did you notice that:- Anakin is so good that owns dooku quite fast. Yet, he can't beat obi-wan, who was showed inferior to dooku and beat by him in a quite humiliating way both of their fights.


That whole thing about Anakin and Obiwan knowing each other so well comes into play but you do have a point with the sidious one.

And the magnaguards could have been more advanced by ROTS or it was just be stupid to see them lose in one swing in the movie.

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See my points above, Hord.


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I did
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Great eek!


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Was I suppose to look at anything in particular?
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I laughing from the last 4 posts. I mean, now I laughing from the last 5

By the way, laughing
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I laughing from the last 4 posts. I mean, now I laughing from the last 5

By the way, laughing


WTF what pills u on?
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Originally posted by Darth Hord
Was I suppose to look at anything in particular?


Not really.


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Re: Re: Dueling curiosities

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- They were totally different situations and there are several reasons as to why what happened, happened.

- Windu defeated Sidious only because he used Vapaad against him. Plus, he had Shatterpoint, as well.

- I believe that is because Kenobi knows Anakin from head to toe, he knows his movements, powers, weaknesses, advantages, disadvantages, saber styles, etc etc... while Dooku understimated him [though, if he had not understimated him, he would've lost anyway, so] knowing almost nothing about his powers & skills.

-That's also quite weird, but I didn't know about that. Where do you saw/read about it?


This is true.


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Anyone said it wasn't? But now try to see, for example, all these ROTS situations, WITHOUT knowing shit about vaadpad, shatterpoint, etc. I certainly find it strange.
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I'm not positive but didn't Sidious lose on purpose so that he could win over Anakin?


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Not the saber part, no.



The Todd - I'd like to fake your saber part.


Donno, just seemed appropriate. Hi-five.


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Anyone said it wasn't? But now try to see, for example, all these ROTS situations, WITHOUT knowing shit about vaadpad, shatterpoint, etc. I certainly find it strange.


Well, yes... I see your point, it's true.


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Re: Dueling curiosities

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Originally posted by kamhal
Did you notice that:

- Sidious, the suppose ultimate sith lord, can't just win a lightsaber duel in the movies? He lost against windu and yoda actually disarms him during the duel. Hmm...
- Yoda is suppose to be better then windu, THE grand master. Yet he couldn't beat Sidious while windu actually did it.
- Anakin is so good that owns dooku quite fast. Yet, he can't beat obi-wan, who was showed inferior to dooku and beat by him in a quite humiliating way both of their fights.
- Kit fisto destroyed 2 magna guards in what, 2 swipes? Yet anakin and obi-wan need more time destroy just 1 of them, YET kit fisto was killed by sidious with 3 swipes...

Can you remember more of these?


-Yoda and Mace are excellent lightsaber duelist. No matter how good one is he can always lose a battle.

-Mace didn't have senate pods being hurled at him left and right and he didn't have to jump dozens of feet to get to Palpatine. When Mace dueled Palpatine they were on equal ground.

-Dooku defeated Obi-Wan with the Force not his skill with a lightsaber. Also Obi-Wan trained and taught Anakin so he should know all his moves which would help.

-Never seen/heard Kit do that.


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it was probably in the cartoon "clone wars" series, which really arent cannon, given that windu was flying hundreds of metres into the air with a single jump, and obi wan was reflecting laser and metal bullets with the force, which no jedi has ever been seen doing


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Originally posted by kamikz
Not the saber part, no.



The Todd - I'd like to fake your saber part.


Donno, just seemed appropriate. Hi-five.


I'll hi-five that! *snaps fingers afterwards*

And I would have gone something more on the line of the Todd saying, "give me five minutes and I'll find your shatterpoint."


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Re: Re: Dueling curiosities

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-Yoda and Mace are excellent lightsaber duelist. No matter how good one is he can always lose a battle.

-Mace didn't have senate pods being hurled at him left and right and he didn't have to jump dozens of feet to get to Palpatine. When Mace dueled Palpatine they were on equal ground.

-Dooku defeated Obi-Wan with the Force not his skill with a lightsaber. Also Obi-Wan trained and taught Anakin so he should know all his moves which would help.

-Never seen/heard Kit do that.


I think he got it all.


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