People often reference Bane and the rest mocking Darth Krayt as a "pretender" to disparage him. However, who else was called a pretender of the Sith by a powerful Sith spirit?
Freedon Nadd: I now declare it..Exar Kun is a pretender to the Sith legacy.
Nadd, like Bane, simply has petty selfish reasons for their declarations of pretender: Nadd being resentful at the fact Kun obliterated him and Bane being PO'ed that Krayt did not follow his Rule of Two.
To bad for Nadd that Marka Ragnos accompanied by few other ancient sith declared Exar Kun the new Dark Lord of the Sith. So it seems that Nadd has been overruled. So Kun was no pretender.
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Re: Sith Pretenders
Yea, but the Rule of 2 was the best way of the sith, because the dark side elevates the SELF, and a group of sith would not really work by the standards of the dark side.
The reason the Rule of two worked was because the single apprentice learned at the feet of the master, whom the apprentice could only defeat once he or she had grown stronger than the master. Bane understood that.
Krayt's order was just an up-dated version of Kahnn's brotherhood.
Exar wasn't a pretender in the same sense, he was appointed by Ragnos as Dark Lord.
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Pretender my ass: Krayt has accomplished more then any Sith has save for Palpatine that includes Sadow, Kun, Revan, Ruin and Bane etc, he controls the galaxy(except for Bastion) and has the Jedi dispersed and on the run. It took Bane's order what a 1000 years for Palpatine to control the galaxy and for 26 years...where as it took Krayt, what a century altogether. Bane and Andnedu(sp) were just being bitter d-bags...
No it won't, whos going to do it? Lucas doesn't give a shit about the EU, and LFL approved the story before it was even created every thing Mr. Ostrander puts in those comics is approved by LFL meaning they're on board with the general story idea. And considering Legacy is the best selling Star Wars comic in a very long time and their main cash cow till the new CW movie and FU game. I don't think any of the large story arcs are going to be written over.
Krayt is not a pretender he was appointed by a Lord that predates Ragnos, and has accomplished more then Bane could dream of, all the while proving his notions of the Ro2 dead wrong.
I mean Bane hero-worships Revan and yet Revan was appointed to his title by no Lord and completely changed the Sith as he saw fit.
Krayt is a pretender. Talking to a holocron doesn't give you the title of DLOTS. Not to mention xoxaan isn't considered of the ancients that has any authority to appoint anybody. She was one of the first sith lords but there is no indication that she was EVER a DLOTS, so you're wrong. Furthermore, Krayt accomplished what he did ONLY with the empire. I can see the fanboyism coming out of you but you're dead wrong. Krayt could do absolutely nothing without the empire. Look at 7 years after his reign began, he still could not conquer Bastion without losing his entire force. What Bane did was more than Krayt ever could. Not to mention his sith are weak willed with little talent in the force save for the basic dark side abilities. Krayt remade his sith into basically the ancient sith, with a bunch of sith lords and 1 DLOTS. That is ALL he did.
-So once again, where is Revan's legit authority to be crowned Dark Lord, the same person that Bane hero-worships.
-I do miss the old argument of "Yous dont agree wit me so u fanboy!!!11" that you have only perfected.
-Semantics much, and more importantly she predates the ancients she was one of the originals whom without the Ancients wouldn't exist. Her authority is as good as theres. And considering he was studying under the Holocron fro what 15+ years, and he went back to Korriban to finalize his study before becoming dark lord only cements his status.
-Krayt waited and took over an incumbent government, that he had tricked into warfare with the Jedi, he played the Empire, he played the Galactic Allaince, and he played the Jedi. And in the end he's ruler of the Galaxy, where as Bane did what? Owes everything he is to Revan, killed the Sith using Revan's technique, created rules based on Revan's philosophy, and then hid...and died...and some 1000 years later Palpatine comes along and rules the galaxy for 26 years, and even then Palpatine breaks Banes rules...some Legacy. If Krayt is nothing without the Empire, Bane is nothing without Revan, and Palpatines nothing without the weak corrupt Republic to manipulate.
-As for Bastion, its the most heavily fortified place in the GALAXY, ANY fleet would be wiped out trying to take it.
-For his Sith's powers...who cares, they serve they're purpose as the Star Wars version of puddies who can take out a few Jedi here and there, and his orders Sith does have a few talents, as the top dogs have been able to go one on one with top Jedi/Imp Knights.
-Simply because he doesn't burst out his uber Sith powers every three seconds doesn't make him any less of a Dark Lord, I'd consider Krayt no more powerful then Dooku, but thats irrelevant as I consider good stories and characterizations over feat wars and ubah powaz!!1 Krayt is no more of a pretender then Bane is, whom is as illegitamite as he is.
Apr 5th, 2008 07:52 AM
