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The New Jedi Order:Balance Point
I just finished the new book, Balance Point by Kathy Tyers, she also did Truce at Bakura. Let me just say that this book was phenomenal. For anyone who doesn't know, its the sixth book of The New Jedi Order series, second hardback, one hardback per year, with paper backs to fill in the gaps(ala Shadows and Splinter). I will not ruin it for anybody, but every SW fan should read all these books. I know people were disappointed that Chewie died in the first one, but read them all, they are fantastic. Also, not one author is writing the entire series, it the best of the best. The series is not set to end until of 2004, so its only going to get better.
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Nov 2nd, 2000 04:55 AM |
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Xizor
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Man, you are promoting this book almost as shamelessly as I do Shadows. I'll have to admit though you got me really wanting to read them. Could you post the title and order of each book. Tell me where to start and I'll start reading them. Also could you better explain this hardcover/softcover thing? Thank you, oh, and have you read Shadows of the Empire?
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Nov 2nd, 2000 09:23 AM |
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Jedimaster3838
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I have read Shadows of the Empire, and it was very good.
First off, these books take place twenty two or so years after ROTJ, and the Solo children are in their teens and Mara and Luke are now married. The first book of the New Jedi Order is Vector Prime. The next two books were written by Michael A. Stackpole(X-Wing series) and are called Dark Tide nslaught and Dark Tide:Ruin. The next two books were written by James Luceno and are called Agents of Chaos:Hero's Trial and Agent's of Chaos:Jedi Eclipse. Then came Balance Point. The deal with these is an alien invasion force from outside the galaxy have come to take over the galaxy, and the Jedi are helpless because these creatures are outside the Force. There have been two hardbacks VP and BP and the rest are paperbacks. The hardbacks are what continue the story along to a major event(VP-the invasion, BP-I won't tell) the paperbacks are the inbetweens like Shadows was for ESB and ROTJ and Splinter was for ANH and ESB
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Nov 2nd, 2000 11:50 AM |
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Xizor
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Thats real cool sounding. So VP was a big major event/movie type book. Then you have 4 in betweens which I assume are shorter, and describe all the political and character details, plus minor battles. Then BP is another whoop dee-doo like Empire(probably dark as well, I'll theorize that Jacen falls to the DS b/c these aliens can be controled with dark but not lightside power). Then are 4 more shorter in betweens scheduled to come out? Finally I assume there will be the big ending with a huge war and Jacens brother/sister coming to save him or else Luke sacrificing himself to save him. I'm going to have to read them!! Do the alien species have an evil villain worthy of Palpy/Thrawn/Xizor comparisons?
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Nov 5th, 2000 02:57 AM |
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Jedimaster3838
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Yeah, the hardbacks are like the movies. The next books were going to be called Knightfall, but Lucas didn't like the way they were going, so he canceled them. And yes the Vong have villains on the same level as Palpy/Vader/Thrawn/Xizor. Warmaster Lah is rather evil. These Vong HATE technology, all of their ships and equipment is made from living organisms. On every planet they control all the droids and stuff is destoryed. They really HATE the Jedi, they call them the "supercreatures of the galaxy" Its true the Vong are invisible through the Force, but the Jedi can still use the Force to anticipate a little bit. Also, they can use rocks or other things and hurl them at the Vong. The only little spoiler I will give is that Anakin Solo kicks some major butt!!!!!!!!!
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Nov 5th, 2000 03:55 AM |
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Xizor
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I'd expect him to, Anakin's a real sweet character. Was Knightfall supposed to be the last HC/movie book or the next 1-4 sofcovers? Did Lucas not like the script or what? I thought his highness mostly ignored the novels, exceptfor Shadows he's taken little intrest in this great aspect of the SW's universe.
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Nov 5th, 2000 08:12 PM |
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Knightfall was supposed to be the next issue of paperbacks but apparently Lucas has taken an interest in this new series of books and didn't like the story of Knightfall, thats all I know. I am not sure when the next book comes out, the next hardback is in November but I am not sure about the paperbacks. I know that one paperback is going to deal with Jaina Solo and her role in Rouge Squadron. I think there are 3 or 4 hardbacks left in the series, a good site to visit is www.unjoh.com it'll give you all the information you need for these books, but be careful, there are tons of spoilers.
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Nov 6th, 2000 08:56 AM |
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Xizor
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Re: The New Jedi Order
Thanks, It sounds like the paperbacks are being written by several diffrent authors. It would be sweet if they had Timmothy Zahn or Kevin J. Andrerson write one, like the Tales series.
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Nov 8th, 2000 12:00 AM |
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Nobody knows yet who will write the last couple hardbacks. There is a huge push by fans of the series for Zahn to write the last one. Zahn is the unofficial ruler of the EU and he should write the last one. I would personally like to see Stackpole but I doubt it will be him because he wrote the first two paperbacks.
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Nov 8th, 2000 05:22 AM |
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Xizor
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OK, Let me try to sum this confusing sounding series uo:
Vector Prime - Hardcover - ?
Agent of Chaos: Hero's Trial - softcover - Michael A. Stackpole
Agent of Chaos: Jedi Eclipse - softcover - Michael A. Stackpole
Balance Point - Hardcover - Kathy Tyers
Knightfall? - softcover - ?
Knightfall? - softcover - ?
? - softcover - ?
? - softcover - ?
? - Hardcover - hopefully Zahn
Want to fill in some of the blanks JM3838?
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Nov 8th, 2000 10:50 AM |
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Jedimaster3838
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Vector Prime-HB 1- R.A. Salvatore
Dark Tide: Onslaught and Ruin-2 PB- Stackpole
Agents of Chaos: Hero's Trial and Jedi Eclipse -2PB-
James Luceno
Balance Point- HB 2-Kathy Tyers
Knightfall- Canceled
....and the rest is up in the air, some authors have been assigned but I can't recall the names, I know they are newbies in the SW universe. The last couple books are still undecided.
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Nov 8th, 2000 11:27 AM |
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Xizor
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Re: The New Jedi Order
Lets hope Timothy Zahn intrest might be peeked with the chance to have GL's assistance in writing another duolgy. Since the only other EU book that Lucas involved himself with was Shadows, perhaps Steve Perry might be persuaded to write the in between books as well. I mean he was kind of successful the last time he did that....
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Nov 8th, 2000 11:52 AM |
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In Balance Point there is a scene where Jacen is having a vision of Luke fighting a bunch of Vong warriors and is about to die and tosses his lightsaber to Jacen but Jacen misses. Jacen them sees the universe on a scale of lightness and darkness and when he misses Lukes saber it tilts towards darkness. Then Jacen hears a voice that "shook the heavens" and tells him to "stand firm" he says the voice is deeper than his Uncle's, does this mean its Anakin or maybe Obi-Wan? Maybe the old Jedi Order can help the newbies defeat these invaders and find the "balance point" This series of books is called the New Jedi Order and not the Yuuzhan Vong Invasion, and there are lots of books left and these invaders have already reached the Core, so my guess is they are defeated but something else(New Sith) comes along to challenge the New Republic. Afterall, even Lucas has taken an interest in these books, so something HUGE has to happen. Another thing that is interesting is in Hero's Trial one of the Vong says there kind should learn about the Force, maybe a Vong learns it and becomes more powerful than any Jedi ever.
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Nov 13th, 2000 01:13 AM |
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Re: The New Jedi Order
I say Stackpoles dark tide series is the best so far.
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Nov 15th, 2000 10:35 AM |
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Xizor
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Stackpole
Yes, Stackpole is a great author. I'm sure though that with all
that new stuff to write on(Sith?), plus Lucas being intrested,
that Zahn or Perry could make the next series outstanding.
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Nov 17th, 2000 01:49 AM |
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Re: Stackpole
He's so tactical, during a jedi battle, he'll say that an enemy stepped the wrong way and the jedi tokk advantage of it
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Nov 18th, 2000 06:53 AM |
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Xizor
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Re: Stackpole
Are you talking about Stackpole?
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Nov 20th, 2000 03:04 AM |
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Re: Stackpole
yes I certainly is
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Nov 20th, 2000 09:55 AM |
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Xizor
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Re: Stackpole
OK, because you didn't mention a name and all 3 authors are tactical. Plus the reason you gave was not about tactics at all, just about how the jedi can act through the force.
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Nov 22nd, 2000 08:26 AM |
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Re: Stackpole
sure,why not
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