From Leland Chee: "A dark Jedi is anyone who practices the dark side of the Force whether or not they were a former Jedi."
It's brand recognition, frankly.
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Ventress claimed she was and an official representative of the Sith denied her claim.
It's essentially a brand name. There have been so many incarnations with different philosophies and teachings that there really isn't an ubiquitous defining trait. Exar Kun and Uliq are called Sith by Marka Ragnos, while concomitantly an entire empire of Sith are hidden in the Unknown Regions. Same with them and Revan's "Sith" or Kreia's "Sith". Or Kaan's "Equal Sith" or Bane's "Two Sith" or Lumiya's... "Noble(?) Sith" or Krayt's "One".
Brand name. Many people claim it because of its historical significance. Like Mussolini spouting another Rome. They're similar people associating to a name.
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In addition to brand name, there are specific Sith teachings and knowledge.
All the Sith orders can trace their teaching lineage back to the Hundred Years Darkness and the Sith that came from there in one way or another. Whether direct teacher-student lines, or in a few cases studying at the feet of holocrons of past Sith masters.
Sort of like how a random female darksider could claim to be a Nightsister, but unless she learned their style of magic, she's really not one and is just using the name.
Ventress claimed to be a Sith, but she had no training from anyone with Sith history at the time, she just combined Nightsister and Jedi training. Once she had some training with Dooku, she could more legitimately claim the title as she now had proper Sith teachings (if not as much as a Sith Lord Apprentice), and if Sidious and Dooku keeled over death, I'm sure she would've.
Which is pretty much what Lumiya did. I don't have a lot of respect for Lumiya's sith on the whole, but she was trained by Darth Vader in the ways of the Sith.
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"Wookie" also says that Darth Bane's penis was like really small. You can't believe everything you read there.
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'Shadow Hand' is a term that refers to the Sith apprentice of a Sith Master. (It is also the term for Palpatine's master strategy to retake the galaxy in Dark Empire.) Lumiya was never trained by the Emperor in Sith arts. She was a glorified assassin and disposable pawn to him, nothing moar.
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[SPOILER - highlight to read]: Lumiya was an Imperial saboteur who infiltrated the Rebel Alliance. Luke shoots her down, Vader recovers her damaged body, realizes she's Force sensitive and begins to train her in a Galen Marek/Starkiller-capacity. He fears that Palpatine will inevitably discover this and, instead, halts the training and presents her to him for training as an Emperor's Hand. She's no Sith to Palpatine.
I never liked Lumiya for some reason. She was alright as just another remnant of Palpatine's agents, like Mara, Jerec, or Hethrir. But at least they were converted or killed---Lumiya was allowed to keep the Sith name going. Just another example of LucasArts brandishing their famous names to wrangle typical readers.
Define preaze.
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Sith arts, techniques or learning methods used exclusively or mostly-exclusive by the sith.
There's apparently a lot of sith tricks and such that help boost one's power that haven't really been detailed, hence it being such a big deal to many to get to be a sith lord's proper apprentice. And of course there's the more obvious stuff like thought-bomb, essence transfer, and similar rare and powerful techniques that are sith exclusive.
What technique or power can only be used (used, not learned/taught) by members of the Sith organization? You know like, once you're a member you can do this, but if you leave, you can not. What are they?
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That's true, once Jacen Solo evolved in to Darth Caedus at level 36, he instantly learned Hyper Beam.
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If you leave you don't *lose* them (hence 'mostly-exclusively'), but they still originate from the Sith. Cade Skywalker knows some sith arts for example.
Also, quite often if you leave, the other Sith kill you. So they tend not to get passed around too much.
"Dark Jedi" is a term spawned out of necessity. After all, if Ventress, Sora Bulq, Quinlan Vos, Savage Opress, etc. would have all been dubbed "Sith", instead of "dark Jedi", it would have directly violated the rule of two- a rule Palpatine obviously abided by.
In short: it was essentially a way to introduce more dark side adepts to the mythos, without screwing up Sith continuity.
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Jul 7th, 2011 12:19 AM
