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How bad of a combatant is Valkorion?
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How bad of a combatant is Valkorion?

Exactly how bad is the Immortal Emperor in a combat situation?

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He'd lose a bar fight


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He's not a bad combatant. Being taken off guard isn't grounds for being a poor combatant.
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He'd lose a bar fight


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He's not a bad combatant. Being taken off guard isn't grounds for being a poor combatant.


It is when you start ignoring people that you know for a fact are your enemies and have lethal weapons, and just start giving up your back to them.
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Re: How bad of a combatant is Valkorion?

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Exactly how bad is the Immortal Emperor in a combat situation?

Had a lengthy conversation with member SunRazer about this matter. Here: http://www.killermovies.com/forums/...mp;pagenumber=7

To be honest, he is not a bad fighter. He is officially credited for being a brilliant tactician.

However, he could afford to be a bit careless in a combat situation because he could cheat death (when the Outlander impaled his avatar, he infiltrated the mind of his opponent and laughed while doing so). He did not seek formal training in Jedi dueling arts either so that is a minus as well.
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He's not a bad combatant. Being taken off guard isn't grounds for being a poor combatant.

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Virtually anybody can be caught off-guard in the heat of a struggle.

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But it takes a special kind of person to do so consistently. sad


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But it takes a special kind of person to do so consistently. sad

True.

1. Darth Vader managed to grab Palpatine from behind and throw him into a shaft.

2. Han Solo managed to shoot Palpatine from behind, disabling his last clone.

Seems like Palpatine has a knack of getting knocked off from behind. thumb up

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The only truly embarrassing moment for Tenebrae in a fight is when he got too close to Hero of Tython to realize that the latter might score a hit on him. Perhaps, he was really frustrated during this time due to disruption of his ritual and consequent loss of power. However, people have picked this single example and blown it out of proportion.

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True.

1. Darth Vader managed to grab Palpatine from behind and throw him into a shaft.
Being stabbed in the back by someone you believed to be completely under your control isn't the same as being stabbed in the back by someone trying to kill you. eek!

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2. Han Solo managed to shoot Palpatine from behind, disabling his last clone.
Because he was too weak to defend himself yeah. sad

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The only truly embarrassing moment for Tenebrae in a fight is when he got too close to Hero of Tython to realize that the latter might score a hit on him. Perhaps, he was really frustrated during this time due to disruption of his ritual and consequent loss of power. However, people have picked this single example and blown it out of proportion.
laughing out loud

Do better.


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Virtually anybody can be caught off-guard in the heat of a struggle.
Pretty much. Like you said, even Palpatine was taken off guard on a couple occasions, as was Maul in TPM, among others.
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Being stabbed in the back by someone you believed to be completely under your control isn't the same as being stabbed in the back by someone trying to kill you. eek!

Because he was too weak to defend himself yeah. sad

laughing out loud

Do better.

How about when Savage ran into him like a freight train?
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How about when Savage ran into him like a freight train?


And he laughed it off like a Japanese school girl?

Face it TORCvnts. Valkorion is shit.


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2. Han Solo managed to shoot Palpatine from behind, disabling his last clone

'cept he meant to die so he could Grand Theft Anakin.



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And he laughed it off like a Japanese school girl?

Face it TORCvnts. Valkorion is shit.

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And he laughed it off like a Japanese school girl?


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That scene where he charges at HOT while using force lightning and HOT blocking it then slicing through him was pretty stupid.


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And he laughed it off like a Japanese school girl?

What's your point, dickhead? How does that negate the fact that he was taken by surprise?
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How about when Savage ran into him like a freight train?
quote: (post)
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And he laughed it off like a Japanese school girl?

Face it TORCvnts. Valkorion is shit.
Some freight train. laughing out loud thumb up

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What's your point, dickhead? How does that negate the fact that he was taken by surprise?
He wasn't.


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If Valky tried harder, he would handily eviscerate most in combat, if all his power hype and his accolades are actually true.


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